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Post by michaelm on Dec 15, 2013 19:59:22 GMT
Prior to my self imposed exile, I'd intended to have a go at learning to read music. Looking round for a book, this one (or the single volume version) kept cropping up, so I bought a copy. Further Googling led to a "study group" on another forum who recorded their way through it. Blatantly following in their footsteps (down to how many pages per lesson), I thought I'd give it a go. Here's my first piece - guitar 2 part from the duet "Sea to Sea". Metronome set at 80, it felt a lot faster than it sounds when I was recording it! N otation can be seen on the "look inside" tab at Amazon. www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=12607513&q=hi&newref=1If anyone fancies joining me in working through it - do feel free to join in. Project for the new year - teach yourself to read notation:-) Or am I the only one here who can't!
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Post by leoroberts on Dec 15, 2013 21:38:57 GMT
teach yourself to read notation:-) Or am I the only one here who can't! Nope, you ain't! I can't read a note.
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Post by ocarolan on Dec 15, 2013 23:26:03 GMT
I....am.....in......the.......ve..ry.....sloooooooooooow......rea...ders.........class.
I know what the notes are, and I can cope with fairly simple pieces, but getting the flow of the timing is what lets me down if it gets too complicated. Never really stuck at it persistently enough to improve, though I know I should.
All the best with your studies Michael - hope you'll keep us up to date with how you're getting on.
Keith
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Post by sigmadel on Dec 22, 2013 13:23:41 GMT
Nope I'm with Leo , I can't read a note . I even kinda struggle with that Tab rubbish :-)
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Post by 007 on Dec 22, 2013 17:21:31 GMT
I'm not a reader either
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Post by jonnymosco on Dec 23, 2013 10:06:02 GMT
This sounds a really good idea, especially as the books are aimed at a plectrum/jazz approach. Good luck with it - shame there aren't any takers… it really does open up a whole new world, to be able to pick out the melody of a song whilst playing the chords is really useful (by ear's good too of course).
Jonny
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Post by michaelm on Dec 23, 2013 20:13:49 GMT
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Post by scripsit on Dec 23, 2013 22:21:31 GMT
I'm with Keith in being very slow at reading 'proper' notation. I've also always struggled with working out where on the fretboard those notes need to be played (there are always so many alternatives), so have usually resorted to tablature if available.
I think it is a good idea to persevere with notation if you are willing to struggle through the first few months. I've got all my pieces and potential pieces in tablature form (in Guitar Pro, which also allows you to view a slightly eccentric notation view of the music if you want), and discovered by accident recently that I can basically sight read tab, as long as I've heard the original to get some idea of complicated timing and so on.
This implies to me that sight reading music is something that does come naturally eventually, as all classical musicians I've ever known have smugly told me (including my daughter). Too old to pursue it now, but I do wish I'd pushed a bit more to get over the early learning hump.
Kym
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Post by michaelm on Jan 5, 2014 20:51:50 GMT
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Post by windminstrel on Jan 6, 2014 14:59:34 GMT
Too old to pursue it now, but I do wish I'd pushed a bit more to get over the early learning hump. Kym ...... never too old to pursue any form of learning IMHO.
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Post by minorkey on Jan 7, 2014 9:43:09 GMT
Wow, I thought everyone on here would be eating notation for breakfast. Me I cant read a note, and struggle with tab. I only play by ear.
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Post by clydeslide on Jan 7, 2014 10:31:56 GMT
I started on classical so I used to be pretty good at reading notation (not good enough to work out where I should be on the neck based on the notation though). My teacher was ridiculously good, she could tell you which composer had written a piece of music just by reading the first few bars.
To be honest, I've found that very little guitar music I want to learn is actually written in standard notation. Most of it is in tab or just chord boxes. While I'm pretty poor at it, my personal opinion is that having a good ear is much more important to guitar playing and is much more useful, you can pick up the key and sit in with people much easier.
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Post by Martin on Jan 7, 2014 10:45:00 GMT
I have started learning notation a few times only to give up through laziness and having no real motivation to do so.
The last time was when I was taking classical mandolin lessons, and I probably learned much more that time. It helped when trying to assist my daughter when she was learning classical guitar, but again when the necessity to study it disappeared, so did the learning.
I do use TAB a fair bit, but always in conjunction with the music, as I find it makes little sense to me otherwise.
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Post by michaelm on Jan 16, 2014 19:40:11 GMT
Been at this for 6 weeks now, and up to page 25 already! The first two solos, imaginatively called: First Soloand Second Solo
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Post by leoroberts on Jan 16, 2014 19:50:47 GMT
Seems like you're getting the hang of this stuff really well, Mike ... I actually like both choons, too, much more interesting than your average 'teach yourself from a book' pieces
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