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Post by andyhowell on Sept 27, 2016 14:48:56 GMT
At the Halifax event in 2015 I ran a workshop on alternate tunings but really spent most of the time on DADGAD. I did say I would make a video that covered the same ground as we really don't have time to go over things that much.
At Halifax this year I was reminded by a couple of people that the video hadn't appeared. So here it is!
The aim of this is to just give you so simple tips, in 15 minutes, that will help you explore some of the basics of this tuning. Learning from tutorials or tabs is a great thing to do I find that it is noodling on the sofa that helps you make sense of what you have read or seen in tutorials!
I recorded this the day after Halifax. I was feeling a bit battered and fragile :-)
You tube compresses and crunches a lot and has put a few buzzy sounds in (or they appear at playback) but this shouldn't mess things up too much!
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Post by Martin on Sept 27, 2016 14:58:34 GMT
Brilliant, Andy. Thanks very much for doing this and posting it so soon after the weekend. I'll make good use of it
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Post by lavaman on Sept 27, 2016 15:29:02 GMT
Thanks Andy. A great video. Inspired me to dig out Doug Young's DADGAD book and have another go.
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Post by Martin on Sept 27, 2016 19:17:18 GMT
Thanks Andy. A great video. Inspired me to dig out Doug Young's DADGAD book and have another go. That book gives me nightmares! It all seems so simple, until I try to understand any of it....
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Post by lavaman on Sept 27, 2016 23:38:47 GMT
That book gives me nightmares! It all seems so simple, until I try to understand any of it.... I know exactly what you mean. That book looks deceptively simple - a bit like trying to play Mississippi John Hurt songs and then finding that they're not as easy as you thought they should be.
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 28, 2016 8:41:17 GMT
I know exactly what you mean. That book looks deceptively simple - a bit like trying to play Mississippi John Hurt songs and then finding that they're not as easy as you thought they should be. I do think DADGAD causes concerns because of the way it sounds. It is very unsettling when you first experiment with it. I really recommend noodling around with some very simple basics before moving into Doug's territory. Tabs are also a bit limited when it comes to some techniques. SaveSave
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Post by leoroberts on Sept 28, 2016 9:15:16 GMT
Great, and simple, video andyhowell. I must give it another go (though there's nothing WRONG with fiddling around on the top 3 strings if you ask me) One question, which relates to your modal comment* - HOW MANY SODDING APPLES DOES ONE KITCHEN NEED? * It doesn't
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 28, 2016 9:20:05 GMT
Great, and simple, video andyhowell . I must give it another go (though there's nothing WRONG with fiddling around on the top 3 strings if you ask me) One question, which relates to your modal comment* - HOW MANY SODDING APPLES DOES ONE KITCHEN NEED? The apples had just been picked :-) No there's nothing wrong with the top 3 strings but playing up there really has that weird sound that puts people off. AT one point — when talking boar scales — I do go back up there but it is disturbing. I reckon it is this sound that puts people off! Assume most of the high string action will be around 5 to 9 frets. And remember — DADGAD is quite easy (at least at a basic level). Keep theory out of it and don't ever watch Pierre Bensusan and you should be fine :-) SaveSave
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Post by scorpiodog on Sept 28, 2016 10:23:27 GMT
No there's nothing wrong with the top 3 strings but playing up there really has that weird sound that puts people off. AT one point — when talking boar scales — I do go back up there but it is disturbing. I reckon it is this sound that puts people off! It's a great vid, Andy. Clear and fluid. Respect, my man. But what are Boar Scales? I've butchered a pig and so I know that boars don't have scales. Or is that another secret of DADGAD?
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 28, 2016 12:58:43 GMT
No there's nothing wrong with the top 3 strings but playing up there really has that weird sound that puts people off. AT one point — when talking boar scales — I do go back up there but it is disturbing. I reckon it is this sound that puts people off! It's a great vid, Andy. Clear and fluid. Respect, my man. But what are Boar Scales? I've butchered a pig and so I know that boars don't have scales. Or is that another secret of DADGAD? No idea - but it keeps you all on your toes ;-)
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Post by vikingblues on Sept 29, 2016 11:44:03 GMT
Great video Andy - very well thought through and great advice. Great advice in your other comments in the thread too .... particularly 'Keep theory out of it and don't ever watch Pierre Bensusan and you should be fine :-)' I must admit I've found noodling on the sofa by far the best method of learning how to get to some at least half-decent DADGAD playing. But books usually don't help me for learning on guitar, and I'm afraid I had to give up permanently on the Doug Young book. I must be destined to remain noodling around at the basic level with a distinct lack of theory, but I love the DADGAD sound enough that it's not a bad thing. Good point you made about the capo taming some of the overtones ..... on some guitars those overtones can be very pronounced in DADGAD when played without a capo and it becomes just way too much of a good thing. Mark
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 29, 2016 16:04:49 GMT
Good point you made about the capo taming some of the overtones ..... on some guitars those overtones can be very pronounced in DADGAD when played without a capo and it becomes just way too much of a good thing. Mark Those overtones can be a problem as can the stretches. I seldom sing over DADGAD and if I do (see the Peabody Blues here) I tend to capo at 2. I think it was singing that led Martin Simpson to explore C su 4 sus 9 — CGCFCD. If you look at the intervals they are the same as DADGAD on the bottom fours strings. I find it easy to transcribe DADGAD to this tuning which s somehow flatter. SaveSave
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Post by birdo on Sept 30, 2016 6:25:45 GMT
Thanks for this. I recently discovered DADGAD so this has been great for me. I ve just got a couple of quick questions if you don't mind? When you play the G chord at the first position ( 5 fret ) , are you just fretting the G on the low D string and no other notes? I can't quite see on the video. Also I m use to playing scales in box patterns , in standard tuning . Is it done more linear in DADGAD .? Apologise if these are stupid questions but I m still trying to get my head round this . Thanks again for the video.
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Post by ourmaninthenorth on Sept 30, 2016 11:31:11 GMT
Terrifically engaging video Andy..thanks a million. Coming in from the cold (electric playing) I'm a real newcomer to these alternate tunings; however my saving grace is I don't know the names of most chords in standard either, so not knowing them in alternate tunings will be like falling off a log. Seriously though, in modern speak...subscribed.
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 30, 2016 12:03:00 GMT
Terrifically engaging video Andy..thanks a million. Coming in from the cold (electric playing) I'm a real newcomer to these alternate tunings; however my saving grace is I don't know the names of most chords in standard either, so not knowing them in alternate tunings will be like falling off a log. Seriously though, in modern speak...subscribed. Chords? What's in a name? Martin Simpposon teaches that chords are a bit irrelevant in this world simply because of variations and capes. He recommends thinking in intervals — 1st, 3rd, 5th and so on. Makes greater sense to me. SaveSave
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