leitrimnick
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My main instrument is: Fylde Oberon
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Post by leitrimnick on Oct 1, 2016 16:35:54 GMT
Thanks Andy. Being totally self taught, not reading either notation or tab and playing by ear does make you wonder if sometimes you're takling rubbish because many other players just don't think the same way.
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leitrimnick
C.O.G.
Posts: 152
My main instrument is: Fylde Oberon
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Post by leitrimnick on Oct 1, 2016 16:51:55 GMT
to OurManInTheNorth
I've been having a go with Andy's suggested C sus 2 today, it's a lot of fun..but everything I'm playing sounds faintly Scottish.
It doesn't have to, honestly! Have a look a the video of Flying Fish on my FB Page (link in signature). The tuning there is Csus2 (but to be truthful I had to look it up to check...I just think of it as CGCGCD). Oh and thanks for the kind words on my post.
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Post by ourmaninthenorth on Oct 1, 2016 17:23:34 GMT
to OurManInTheNorth
I've been having a go with Andy's suggested C sus 2 today, it's a lot of fun..but everything I'm playing sounds faintly Scottish.
It doesn't have to, honestly! Have a look a the video of Flying Fish on my FB Page (link in signature). The tuning there is Csus2 (but to be truthful I had to look it up to check...I just think of it as CGCGCD). Oh and thanks for the kind words on my post. Thanks Nick, that track is both beautiful and informative. When I'm exploring new things by ear it's essential to have a reference point. By that I mean if I'd have heard your composition without knowing, I wouldn't have been able to identify the tuning. So hearing something that I like in an identified and unfamiliar tuning, rather than boxing me in, actually opens up my own imaginative senses. There is much to explore here, I really appreciate the teachings of those further down the track. Thanks to both yourself and Andy.
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leitrimnick
C.O.G.
Posts: 152
My main instrument is: Fylde Oberon
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Post by leitrimnick on Oct 1, 2016 18:15:58 GMT
Glad to have been of some help
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Post by vikingblues on Oct 2, 2016 9:47:18 GMT
Don't think so much, explore and find what works, what doesn't, what's a horrible discord and what might be an interesting one. Explore, find a signpost to way you want to go and then noodle. Keep listening to what works and what doesn't and the tuning will fall into place. -------------------- Hope this makes sense and isn't off-putting. My basic point is don't get hung up on theory and have fun learning your way around...it's always a different map. I've spent the last 40 years doing just that..finding signposts to work from; in all honesty I can't read the maps, but journey onwards nevertheless. My comment about not knowing what I'm doing in Standard and ergo not knowing what I'm doing in Alternate tunings, was only partially a joke. I simply don't want to know the theory..it interferes with my playing. I've been having a go with Andy's suggested C sus 2 today, it's a lot of fun..but everything I'm playing sounds faintly Scottish... Your whole posts makes a lot of sense Nick and ourmaninthenorth ! The lack of theory knowledge is also an approach that makes playing around with something like a spider capo so interesting and rewarding. Finding my way around a tuning just using the ears is what makes it good for improvisation as far as I'm concerned. Though I know that improv is a branch of playing that's of minority interest. The more I get to know about the theory of an altered tuning and the more I get to know what chords are where the less creative and effective any improvisations I try become. Which I guess is at least partly why I like teaching that gives suggestions for a basic framework of a tuning that you can then explore for yourself. Mark
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Post by andyhowell on Oct 2, 2016 10:05:56 GMT
There's a lot in this. You need to both play what is comfortable, sensible and beautiful to you, while also stretching yourself from time to time. The pacing of stretching is a very individual thing and may need to be a lot lighter than many tutorial writers think.
While I bang on about these tunings it is all self exploration for me now. I no longer read tabs and stuff. Why? Life's just too short! If something is simple but sounds lovely to me that is enough.
If I was younger I would probably think differently!
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