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Post by delb0y on Dec 9, 2016 19:34:48 GMT
Okay, it'll probably amount to nothing, but I'm getting a little bit of GAS for a nylon string acoustic. I know nothing about such beasts but I love me some Jerry Reed, son, and some Buster Jones and I can't help but think I need a new guitar. Anyone got any advice. I'd need a proper width on the neck - not those six inch wide necks the classical folks can cope with. I have little hands, me. Probably need it to have some electronics on board as I'd have to be able to play it live to justify it. A fellow I was talking to the other night mentioned a Roger Williams guitar - I had a look on line and the hand-built originals are well out of my league but the Asian JHS copy looks interesting. Then there are the Godins. I've seen some nice looking Takamines, too, but I think the ones I've seen have wide necks.
The other factor is will it sound too dull with just my fingertips? I use a thumb-pick and fingers, not finger-picks and not finger-nails. I'm worried I'd lose too much brightness with flesh on nylon, although I believe the combination always pleased my local bishop.
Any thoughts?
Cheers D
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Post by jangarrack on Sept 10, 2017 12:50:41 GMT
I see this is quite an old post and surprised that it hasn't had any responses. I'm also into the Buster B Jones, Chet Atkins style of playing and learned quite a lot from their DVD lessons, which has made me hanker after another nylon string guitar for a few years now. I play mainly steel string, but also have an older model Taylor NS32SE, which I absolutely love, very relaxing to play compared to steel strings and very forgiving of my terrible playing. It's a small bodied 12 fretter with 1 7/8" nut width, very comfortable and despite some online reviews saying otherwise, I find it has pretty rich acoustic sound, in fact it has a lot more projection and depth of sound than the Takamine EN nylon crossover I had some yeas ago and that was actually a larger guitar. Anyway, I'm still after that 'other' nylon string guitar and have a real yearning for a Godin Multiac nylon despite the fact that have never had the chance to actually play one. During the time I've had Multiac itch, I did have for a while the Yamaha silent guitar which was surprisingly well made, quite comfortable to play and was a lot of fun played through a decent set of headphones. Nice guitar, but wasn't what I was really after, so I sold it again. What puzzles me about the Multiac nylons is that for the Jerry Reed, Buster B and other finger styles of playing, most of the players on YouTube seem to use the SA models with the RMC / synth access pickups and I don't know if that is because they use synth access for other music or just that there is a preference for the RMC pickups over undersaddle pickups for the basic nylon sound. Also there seems to be a lot of Multiacs on YouTube which actually don't sound that great considering the reputation the have. There is another thread going on at the moment about Multiacs and I've tried to put the link below. acousticsoundboard.co.uk/post/119754/thread. Also a video of a nice Chet Atkins Gibson for sale on ebay at the moment. Guitar Demo: GIBSON Chet Atkins CEC *for sale* Nylon string (1985)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 13:44:45 GMT
Furch do a very nice one, with a cutaway and a very reasonable width neck (48mm I think). Ask Richard at rguitars.co.uk, as he is a dealer and has been raving about them recently. Córdoba also do a very nice crossover instrument with 'electric style neck'. Project music in Exeter are a dealer of those.
Many great classical players use just their bare fingers. In fact, that was the only way many players played up until the early 20th C I believe.
Robbie
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Post by jangarrack on Sept 10, 2017 14:28:40 GMT
The Furch guitars look really nice. According to their website, all the nylon string models have a 45mm nut, which I would find too narrow. My 2 Brook Taws were made with 46mm nut widths and I have a steel string Takamine with 48mm nut, all of which suit me well and probably why I find the usual crossover nut 48mm width quite comfortable. I believe the Furches are excellent value for money, so might try to find out a bit more about them. I don't know anything about the Córdoba, so may also have a look into that.
As for playing with bare fingers, that's what I do probably 80% of the time and mostly use a Fred Kelly Heavy Slick Pick delrin thumb pick for steel string. The heavy delrin pick is fairly natural sounding, not too harsh like some of the plastic ones I have tried.
Jeff
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 17:49:19 GMT
I honestly didn't see this post otherwise I would have answered it during my nylon crossover GAS phase (which I still have btw). Yamaha and Cordoba do crossovers for between £300-500 ish. I'm looking for a shorter scale crossover if anyone has any info or suggestions. I've recently seen a busker playing a Yamaha silent guitar in my home town....and it sounded pretty good to my ears! Only problem is that I don't look upon the silent guitar as a real guitar....prolly too unconventional for a bloke of my age.
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Post by Akquarius on Sept 11, 2017 7:07:04 GMT
I have a Cordoba Fusion Maple. still happy with that guitar, especially for Bossa Nova, Samba and a bit of standard tuning things.
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 11, 2017 9:28:53 GMT
Akquarius - Wow, your hair has grown a bit since HB7, Bernd! Keith
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Post by Akquarius on Sept 11, 2017 10:41:48 GMT
Keith, if hair like would allow me to play like that I doubt you'd recognize me 😁
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Post by bobcarter on Sept 20, 2017 20:27:12 GMT
I've had a Vintage Roger Williams for a couple of months now and like it. Good value and I like the combination of cutaway and 12th feet join. Don't believe the text you find on some descriptions though. It's not all solid - I think the sides are laminate - and more importantly the pickup is not a Fishman Rare Earth Blend (as far as I know that wouldn't even work on a nylon string), it's a Sonicore undersaddle pickup. But sounds good.
You could also try the Yamaha Silent SLG200N nylon. About the same price as the Vintage.
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Post by rob on Sept 20, 2017 20:43:11 GMT
The reason the rmc pickups seem to be popular with some fingerstyle guitarists is they produce a very fast response to picking, with there being 6 individual sensors there is better string separation. This type of response seems to suit the atkins, reed type of playing....i would love to have an om sized guitar with a set of rmc or ghost hex pickups....i guess we are looking along the lines of a taylor doyle dykes signature model...(thats a steel string, not nylon...only my rantings...rob
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Post by jangarrack on Sept 20, 2017 20:58:01 GMT
That is a really interesting point that I had not ever thought of and possibly demonstrated to some degree in this Andy Duffy video, which I found very informative.
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Post by Akquarius on Sept 26, 2017 11:24:43 GMT
I tried the Multiac once. A really heavy beast, but an interesting guitar for that purpose.
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