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Nov 27, 2018 14:23:05 GMT
Post by dicky on Nov 27, 2018 14:23:05 GMT
hi there does or has anyone learned a whole song or tune from a finger style guitar tab . and if so what is the secret? . going very slowly doesn't help a lot, is there a light bulb moment or is it just in the realm of geniuses and us lesser mortals have to do without cheers dicky
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Nov 27, 2018 14:38:00 GMT
Post by Onechordtrick on Nov 27, 2018 14:38:00 GMT
hi there does or has anyone learned a whole song or tune from a finger style guitar tab . and if so what is the secret? . going very slowly doesn't help a lot, is there a light bulb moment or is it just in the realm of geniuses and us lesser mortals have to do without cheers dicky
I can’t read music or play by ear so I learn everything using tab, admittedly for mandolin so there may be issues that I’m unaware of for finger style. What I do is find a recording of the arrangement I’m learning, the best is often the midi version of the Tabledit file that I’m learning: break it down into sections and learn to play it slowly. I need to really “get the tune into my head” before I stand a chance though.
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Nov 27, 2018 14:42:01 GMT
Post by bleatoid on Nov 27, 2018 14:42:01 GMT
Hi dicky - yep - I’ve learnt a few - but I also run into a brick wall occasionally and have to wave the white flag. My problems tend to come from my technical limitations rather than the tab though - normally I can get there or thereabouts with a bit of perseverence - or at least see what the tab is aiming for......so long as I know the tune or better still, if the tab book comes with a dvd. If the issue is difficulty in a particular segment blocking your progress, maybe try simplifying that bit to get you going? Good luck with it - what are you trying to learn anyway? Peter
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Nov 27, 2018 14:49:56 GMT
Post by scorpiodog on Nov 27, 2018 14:49:56 GMT
I have occasionally learned songs from tab, but I don't tend to learn songs note for note (or, if I do, I change them to get a bit more of "me" in the performance).
For me, the trick is to learn the hard bits in tiny bites. Tab is totally rubbish for timing (often it's completely absent) and so a recording is as important as the tab itself. If I can't hear it in my head as I work through the tab, I can't do it at all.
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Nov 27, 2018 15:06:41 GMT
Post by andyhowell on Nov 27, 2018 15:06:41 GMT
Ah the joy of the tab. Use them to understand the basics of what is going on. Learn the lines and then build up a little speed, keeping simple. and then never listen to the original because yours will never be the same! The big parable, wit tabs is that it is too easy to miss the essence of the music.
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Nov 27, 2018 16:18:12 GMT
Post by Phil Taylor on Nov 27, 2018 16:18:12 GMT
I have learned countless tunes from tab but I must have the recording as well. I also prefer to have the music notation to get the length of each note right which can dictate the fingering I use.
I just work through it slowly, sort out how I can play it and then put it to memory.
Phil
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Nov 27, 2018 17:08:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 17:08:07 GMT
Agree with most of the above. Break it down into little sections, learn those very slowly for starters, when you can do a whole section, build up the tempo, then start on the next section. When you can do all the sections at a reasonable tempo (not necessarily as fast as the original recording), then start putting the sections together and particularly focusing on the transitions between the sections. Might need to drop the tempo again. Keep at it, eventually it will come!
I'm still very much a beginner. Been working on Davey Graham's 'Anji' for months and can still only do about 10% of it, but it gives me pleasure and encouragement to see that I am progressing, albeit very slowly!
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Nov 27, 2018 17:42:39 GMT
Post by Onechordtrick on Nov 27, 2018 17:42:39 GMT
Should have added that I print my tab with the notation as well which I use for getting the lengt( of the notes right.
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Nov 27, 2018 21:13:27 GMT
Post by dicky on Nov 27, 2018 21:13:27 GMT
I have occasionally learned songs from tab, but I don't tend to learn songs note for note (or, if I do, I change them to get a bit more of "me" in the performance). For me, the trick is to learn the hard bits in tiny bites. Tab is totally rubbish for timing (often it's completely absent) and so a recording is as important as the tab itself. If I can't hear it in my head as I work through the tab, I can't do it at all. two step candy man and ralph mctells book . a lot of chords like amadd9 etc are in the book but in the videos he uses a lot of part chords to good effect if you watch his early videos his finger work is pretty incredible
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Post by dangad on Nov 28, 2018 15:49:31 GMT
It's just perseverence...my problem is picking up the next tune before fully finishing the current one.
As has been said... once you've learnt what notes go in what order and memorized them and also got a bit muscle memory going...It's time to start really learning the tune... Will let you know when I've properly mastered one!
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Post by andyhowell on Nov 28, 2018 19:36:20 GMT
Does anybody really play full chords on acoustic?
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Post by scorpiodog on Nov 28, 2018 19:56:55 GMT
Does anybody really play full chords on acoustic? Yes.
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Post by andyhowell on Nov 29, 2018 8:27:04 GMT
Hats off to you Paul ;-)
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Nov 29, 2018 8:31:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 8:31:31 GMT
Does anybody really play full chords on acoustic? Me too, interested to know why they wouldn't? Do you mean you only play partial chords, or arpeggios, or you never strum, etc?
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Nov 29, 2018 13:38:01 GMT
Post by andyhowell on Nov 29, 2018 13:38:01 GMT
Gregg Hermetech it's why I play (mainly0 in open tunings. I was being a little facetious but only a little ...
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