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Post by alexkirtley on Nov 12, 2020 21:23:17 GMT
I've used LR Baggs M1's for years, great pickups, at the moment I'm on a dearmond kick and I've got them fitted to a couple of my guitars, if youre not after an acoustic sound which I'm not generally, they can sound incredible, I've got one for sale but it's a bit more expensive than a woody
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 21:43:55 GMT
I've used LR Baggs M1's for years, great pickups, at the moment I'm on a dearmond kick and I've got them fitted to a couple of my guitars, if youre not after an acoustic sound which I'm not generally, they can sound incredible, I've got one for sale but it's a bit more expensive than a woody I want something as authentic as possible. Does the M1 do that and is it easy to use without drilling (i.e. with the cable hanging down the front)?
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Post by alexkirtley on Nov 12, 2020 21:46:46 GMT
I think it does, in reality, no magnetic soundhole pickup is going to do the work of a microphone in front of the guitar, but the M1 gets halfway there!
If you want to get away with no drilling, I.E no jack there's no avoiding a wire hanging out of the soundhole, but it's easy to install and remove, just 2 screw clamps either side of the pickup
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 22:46:22 GMT
Thanks. Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.
I'm going to have to do a bit more research and try things out but it's definitely back on the list.
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Post by dreadnought28 on Nov 12, 2020 22:53:50 GMT
K&K all the way ..... best acoustic sound and nothing between the saddle and the bridge to inhibit sound transmission.
I’ve received a combined K&K pickup and internal preamp from Thomann at £159 Not sure which guitar it’s going in yet.
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Post by bellyshere on Nov 13, 2020 8:49:46 GMT
I’ve had a Woody and an M1 in the past. Woody is fine if you want to sound like you are playing under a duvet. The M1 is better but still sound fake. Get it drilled and go for a K&K. They are leagues ahead.
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Post by andyhowell on Nov 13, 2020 9:54:33 GMT
I'm not going to get sucked into the pickup wars but I will say (despite never have owned one) that I have heard consistently great sound from the Fishman Rare Earth Blend pickup.
There is a really good small guitar ship in Birmingham that will often let you try and listen to various pickup types. They tell me that two pickup systems are picked put more often than others but I can't tell you the answer because I would have to kill you ... (They tend to agree with Roger Bucknall).
Almost as important as the pickup is the preamp that you might put it through. This can make a massive difference to the sound if that is what you are trying to do, i.e. play for others. For example, the K&K often seems to benefit from a boost in the hi mids or 'presence' and then it sounds fabulous. Stuck flat it can sound a bit dull but it is easy to shape.
It seems to be a question of ears as ever. I've just finished running a club over the last three years and as I was often running the soundboard I took a rather obsessional interests in pickups. A good preamp I think is worth the investment. Preamps from Fishman, K&K work very well. I am rather partial to UK designed preamps such as those from Headway and Orchid. These are affordable and. Of course, the more expensive systems from Grace and Tonedexter can sound phenomenal.
SO, I think it depends what you are using them for. For predominantly home use most of the big names will sound fine. For different stage environments you might match a pickup to the pickup or musical style, for example using the magnetic pickups in loud spaces and on blues. Most pickups can be made to sound good and many of the new and higher end under saddle pickups deal with.
Occasionally, I'm very surprised by a sound. A few years ago I agreed to play at a small local festival. For some reason I couldn't take my usual guitar and took with me my Matin J40 which has an under saddle pickup that is at least 35 years old. AT the gig I found there was a mess up over power sockets and I couldn't use my preamp. The sound guy knew what he was doing an he made that pickup sound wonderful — a least as good as all of these modern pickups. I was a bit flawed by this !
So, if you can get to listen to various pickups you might find that helpful. Lockdown permitting of course! t the quack issue really well.
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Post by dreadnought28 on Nov 13, 2020 18:56:20 GMT
I had a Fishman Rare Earth Blend. They are very good but not if you want as close a sound as possible to the actual guitar. It's a magnetic quacky sound with some mic on top but it's hard to go very high with the mic without getting feedback. Depends what you want.
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Post by andyhowell on Nov 13, 2020 19:15:30 GMT
I had a Fishman Rare Earth Blend. They are very good but not if you want as close a sound as possible to the actual guitar. It's a magnetic quacky sound with some mic on top but it's hard to go very high with the mic without getting feedback. Depends what you want. As close to an acoustic guitar depends in the room, the guy running the sound board and the PA. Your pickup is only one point in the chain.
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Post by papadon on Nov 22, 2020 18:43:57 GMT
I’ve just bought a Fishman Neo-D passive humbucker, as Mark from Sounds Great had a couple left. Haven’t had a chance to try it yet, but I’ll let you know. They have the same magnets as the Rare Earth series, but are passive. I've got two acoustics. One with a Rare Earth and the other with a Deo-D. I don't know if it's just a lucky pairing of guitar and pickup or not but oddly enough even though it's less expensive I'm beginning to prefer the Neo-D. It's one heck of a nice pickup for a very reasonable price.
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Post by jubbo on Nov 22, 2020 19:17:54 GMT
I only have experience of the LR Baggs.
They seem to be the standard option now Martin's and come factory fitted if you order an "E" version.
I have the LR Baggs on my Faith Legacy Earth. It sounds superb. I like having the mic in the guitar body and the pickup under the bridge and being able to mix them.
In the store at the time I was looking at more expensive guitars (over 1k more expensive). The guy said they have all been drooling over this special order Faith and how it sounded so good plugged in. As soon as I tried it I was sold.
I have no frame of reference to compare with the K&K. I hear nothing but good things.
A twitch streamer who is becoming popular uses a Martin D-28 with an LR Baggs. It's free to view and historical performances are available to watch. It should give you a good idea of the sound you can get. twitch.tv/caoinfitzmusic
I have found Twitch an a great place to discover and interact with some really great acoustic musicians.
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