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Post by fatfingerjohn on Nov 13, 2020 19:07:30 GMT
Hi,
Now we are in lockdown my guitar group are now using Zoom to have 'meetings' but can only do it with one 'leader' and everyone else muted because synchronization over the web and different devices/signal quality makes it impossible to play together. I've seen some reports that Jamkazam might be a step in the right direction, but others that say it still suffers from latency issues and also is unreliable. I seem to remember someone on the Forum (Richard Knott?) who had played successfully on line with others in USA.
Has anyone got anywhere near cracking this yet and if so, with what software?
FFJ
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Post by andyhowell on Nov 16, 2020 20:07:09 GMT
I’m afraid the ‘’clap’ is the only sure fire tactic. Recording the video and sound individually clap your hands. In a video editor you will be able to Match the visual clap with the sound and then finely adjust.. Old tech but it works!
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Post by stringdriventhing on Nov 16, 2020 20:15:48 GMT
Quite a few of my friends attempted jamming over the net using a variety of apps, including Jamkazam, with no success. You can't really get around the latency. The closest I saw was someone live streaming someone else playing and playing on top of it - and then live streaming himself. It sort of worked, but the first person couldn't hear what the second person was doing. If you tried doing this with more than 2 people it would get pretty complicated pretty quickly! We did some videos using the clap method mentioned by andyhowell and got some decent results, but it's about as far away from playing together as you can get.
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Post by K Tresp on Nov 16, 2020 21:13:56 GMT
This chap seems to know a few things: Music collaboration and doesnt seem optimistic. Hard to see how latency issues get resolved for jamming. Trying to be positive maybe collaborating on a composition a track at a time. That said, most of the major platforms (Zoom. Skype. FaceTime) can be used to recreate with almost complete authenticity the ‘band’ experience of spending 30 minutes setting up, 30 minutes tuning up, 30 minutes arguing with the bass player then packing it in and going for a (now virtual) drink.
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Post by fatfingerjohn on Nov 18, 2020 8:55:07 GMT
Thanks for your response chaps. Looks like there is no current solution. Hopefully the vaccine might allow us back together again next year sometime. (I wonder if there's a vaccine to make my playing better! ). FFJ
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Post by shufflebeat on Dec 7, 2020 21:21:30 GMT
May be worth a read: www.soundonsound.com/techniques/setting-using-jamulusChris has done a fair bit of research on this topic so I would consider his word reliable. If you're a subscriber to this particular sheet then you get the lot, otherwise you only get 20% but you can buy the PDF. I have no commercial relationship with them but I do often follow their advice. If it looks interesting I can give you the highlights.
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