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Post by otis1960 on May 16, 2021 22:34:30 GMT
Next stop Tucumcari?
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Post by skyetripper on May 17, 2021 7:25:17 GMT
Gorgeous. Cant wait to see it finished and hear it being played.
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Post by Phil Taylor on May 17, 2021 8:44:00 GMT
Looks superb!!
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Post by jonnymosco on May 19, 2021 19:54:20 GMT
One last photo before it goes off to be lacquered by Dave Wilson. I asked for super high frets, good for my technique and style of playing.
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Post by jwills57 on May 25, 2021 23:48:25 GMT
I'll weigh in here on the Spanish-heel construction for steel strings. I have two guitars from a young German maker, Alexander Voss, another up-and-comer in the luthier world. These instruments are 14-fret join steel-string guitars but with classical body shapes. Basically they are classical steel-string guitars, except with 14-fret joins, not the traditional 12-fret. Alexander employs the Spanish-heel type of neck join, too. I see a lot of advantages to this method sonically--the guitars are really open, lively, and I guess I would say "transparent" in sound and timbre, just lovely, compelling voices on both guitars. I don't see a lot of advantages, however, for the Spanish-heel method when it comes to long-term issues that inevitably arise with guitars, especially steel-string guitars. Even with greatest care in wood selection, design, and construction, steel-string guitars are going to require neck re-sets down the road; it's just the nature of the beast, dealing with decades of tension on thin pieces of wood. Trying to figure out a way to do this on steel-string guitars built with the Spanish-heel construction method is not for the faint of heart, and all the solutions with which I am aware risk somehow compromising the original integrity of the guitar, like shaving down the bridge and/or fret board, "slipping" the heel, recalibrating/shimming the neck block, etc. These are quite invasive procedures, expensive, requiring incredible expertise, and the guitar you had worked on may not be the guitar you get back, if you know what I mean. This won't be my problem, of course, as I'm getting into my 60s, but it will be somebody's problem. The traditional dovetail and the more modern bolt-on neck design avoid by in large this problem of what to do with a Spanish-heel built steel-string guitar that's crying out for a neck re-set. Several prominent American makers like Taylor and Bourgeois even go so far as to bolt on the entire neck assembly, sans glue at all. I've played many examples of both; some of the Bourgeois guitars I've played have been about the best guitars I have ever played. So, this is my ten-cent opinion, for what it's worth.
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Post by nkforster on May 26, 2021 9:11:16 GMT
Looks like a great guitar Jonny. I like Ralph. Not seen him for a few years, but he's a nice feller who does lovely work. I was reading through all this neck joint talk and was trying to think of something I could add that might help... What type of neck joint is best? This is the type of thing luthiers like taking a stand on. And the type of thing players like arguing about on forums. Spanish heel? English heel? Dovetail? Bolt on? What is best? No one knows. What experiments would you need to run to actually know? Has anyone ever ran the required experiments? No one that I'm aware of. If you haven't run the required experiments, what are we left with? Feelings and hunches. Hunches can be informed, uniformed, strongly held, or lightly held. Said with authority, said with humility. But they are still hunches. You may have been making for 40 years, but never really experimented with that area of design because of a hunch you formed years ago. The same applies to players. You try a guitar you like, it has a Spanish heel. You play another guitar, you don't like it. It has a bolt on neck. An opinion starts to form. It colours your opinion of other guitars you play. But what do you do if you play an instrument that contradicts your view? Do you change the opinion or ignore the evidence? The latter is more common than the former. People often commission instruments from makers who say what they already think or feel. Its rare for them to put their faith in someone who says the opposite of what they think or feel. And why would it be any other way? My feeling is the views expressed on this topic are much more about how people think than how guitar neck joints work. That, we'll probably never know. Nigel www.nkforsterguitars.com
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Post by leoroberts on May 26, 2021 14:58:31 GMT
By 'eck, nkforster, Australia has mellowed you, mate! Anyway, when I eventually get to visit my son and his family in Beerburrum I'll knock on for you (I'll give you notice so that you can arrange to be be out)
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Post by andyhowell on Jun 6, 2021 9:07:58 GMT
[mention]nkforster [/mention] is probably right.
But the hunches and feelings is at the heart of all playing and purchasing I suspect!
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Post by jonnymosco on Jun 15, 2021 17:22:51 GMT
Dave Wilson doing his magic. Jonny
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Post by leoroberts on Jun 15, 2021 22:07:57 GMT
That's polishing? If anything, he's made it dustier, jonnymosco! You should ask for a discount, fella...
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Post by jonnymosco on Jun 16, 2021 6:40:57 GMT
That's polishing? If anything, he's made it dustier, jonnymosco! You should ask for a discount, fella... Looks like I'll be getting a relic finish. Jonny
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Post by brianr2 on Jun 16, 2021 14:21:06 GMT
That's polishing? If anything, he's made it dustier, jonnymosco ! You should ask for a discount, fella... Looks like I'll be getting a relic finish. Jonny Not unlike leoroberts, then. Brian
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Post by jonnymosco on Jun 17, 2021 20:32:38 GMT
Before the gloss.
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Post by Phil Taylor on Jun 27, 2021 15:47:09 GMT
Before the gloss. I think I said on the AGF that it looked very tasty. The word classy comes to mind also. Phil
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Post by jonnymosco on Jun 29, 2021 17:16:23 GMT
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