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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 9:15:19 GMT
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Post by missclarktree on Nov 27, 2013 13:30:20 GMT
Thank you kindly, Mr. Decay. I'll look into those options as well as the Zoom. Hope to be uploading something in a month or two.
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Post by colan on Nov 27, 2013 14:09:13 GMT
The problem with every USB mic I've tried is that you can't use them for multi-tracking because of the latency delay. How do you get around that ? I agree with the basic desktop mic . suggestion. I got a couple on eBay for about three quid. The ones with an on/off switch are preferable, along with a 6mm jack. You can always adapt it to 3.5mm with an adapter .
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Post by missclarktree on Nov 27, 2013 14:29:37 GMT
Well, there's been a development. My son is going to lend me a recorder that he uses for brass band. I don't know what type it is, but it will be useful to try one out. I've inherited one or two of his electrical hand-me-downs over the years, but they never seem to come with an instruction manual! Anyway, we'll see . . .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 8:41:07 GMT
The problem with every USB mic I've tried is that you can't use them for multi-tracking because of the latency delay. How do you get around that ? I agree with the basic desktop mic . suggestion. I got a couple on eBay for about three quid. The ones with an on/off switch are preferable, along with a 6mm jack. You can always adapt it to 3.5mm with an adapter . The beauty of the G-Track is that you plug your headphones into the mic and the gubbins inside (see, I understand all this technical stuff) ensures it's latency free. Before I had the G Track I fixed latency in Audacity with the help of this:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 9:02:27 GMT
Well, there's been a development. My son is going to lend me a recorder that he uses for brass band. I don't know what type it is, but it will be useful to try one out. I've inherited one or two of his electrical hand-me-downs over the years, but they never seem to come with an instruction manual! Anyway, we'll see . . . Well, have a good time Miss C. Regarding the lack of manuals, I rarely bother searching the house for the ones that came with my gadgets mine even if I've got them. Most of the time you can find them online with a quick search on Bing - which seems to produce more relevant results near the top than Google.
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Post by ocarolan on Nov 28, 2013 9:02:27 GMT
............................ The problem with every USB mic I've tried is that you can't use them for multi-tracking because of the latency delay. How do you get around that ? I have done loads of multitracking using a USB mic with no problems re latency at all. Maybe I've just been lucky! But we're starting to sound a lot more complicated than the OP would like though, in fact, on re-reading her original query, anything that requires recording software is possibly not what she's after. Alison - glad to hear you can try out a digital recorder soon. I'm sure your son can show you how it works, and you can probably find an instruction manual online if he doesn't have one, or if his simple explanations are not quite so simple. Let us know what machine it is/how you get on eh? Keith
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Post by leoroberts on Nov 28, 2013 9:07:59 GMT
But we're starting to sound a lot more complicated than the OP would like though, in fact, on re-reading her original query, anything that requires recording software is possibly not what she's after. Software? But that I could use software to tidy things up ... it's straight into the mike, copy the recording to my PC, upload to soundcloud/soundclick and that's it as far as I'm concerned. I'll leave the clever stuff to them's as know what they're doing!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 13:11:26 GMT
............................ The problem with every USB mic I've tried is that you can't use them for multi-tracking because of the latency delay. How do you get around that ? I have done loads of multitracking using a USB mic with no problems re latency at all. Maybe I've just been lucky! But we're starting to sound a lot more complicated than the OP would like though, in fact, on re-reading her original query, anything that requires recording software is possibly not what she's after. Yep, you've been lucky with the USB. Must be some compensation in the Zoom. Re your point about simple options Keith, there's a lot to be said for a copy of Audacity and a basic desktop mic, especially if you're not doing multi-tracking and bringing latency into play. After all, if you have a PC you're most of the way there. You can even use Windows sound recorder and simplify things further, though that does have the problem of being shite. I think if the technology is there - and let's face it, we're both looking right at it in our different timeframes - we might as well embrace it and start climbing up the learning curve from the beginning.
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Post by ocarolan on Nov 28, 2013 14:08:07 GMT
Agree entirely Pete. (esp re Windows sound recorder - anything is better than that!) I reckon the only potential downside of USB mics could be unwanted recording of mechanical noise from computer, though here again I haven't had a problem with this. Mrs O'Cs incessant bl**dy coughing, now that's a problem of an entirely different magnitude! But, as Alison wanted an audio version of a digital camera, and was put off by all the talk on the other threads, then a standalone simple small digital recorder, eg a Zoom, esp one of the cheaper ones must be the simplest way to begin. There can be a steep enough learning curve just getting a decent recording in the first place without having to learn the ins and outs of a recording software package at the same time. And, in Alison's case, once having made a start and got some straightforward direct recordings then she can, if she wants, and with newly gained confidence in her efforts so far, then learn how to edit/enhance/tidy them with something like Audacity etc and still make use of the Zoom, but as a USB mic. Simples. And cheap! I'd really hate to go back to farting about with stands/mics/external mixers/interfaces and all that stuff - the cost, and clutter was huge, and, I used to get latency problems then!! Keith
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 15:57:45 GMT
Agree entirely Pete. (esp re Windows sound recorder - anything is better than that!) I reckon the only potential downside of USB mics could be unwanted recording of mechanical noise from computer, though here again I haven't had a problem with this. Mrs O'Cs incessant bl**dy coughing, now that's a problem of an entirely different magnitude! But, as Alison wanted an audio version of a digital camera, and was put off by all the talk on the other threads, then a standalone simple small digital recorder, eg a Zoom, esp one of the cheaper ones must be the simplest way to begin. There can be a steep enough learning curve just getting a decent recording in the first place without having to learn the ins and outs of a recording software package at the same time. And, in Alison's case, once having made a start and got some straightforward direct recordings then she can, if she wants, and with newly gained confidence in her efforts so far, then learn how to edit/enhance/tidy them with something like Audacity etc and still make use of the Zoom, but as a USB mic. Simples. And cheap! I'd really hate to go back to farting about with stands/mics/external mixers/interfaces and all that stuff - the cost, and clutter was huge, and, I used to get latency problems then!! Keith This am being the truth! While we're here, just a tip for anyone having problems with spilled sound from computer fans, which was always a particular bugbear for me. A mate of mine recently tried cutting one end panel off a cardboard box and placing it with the open end in front of, but not over, the front of his PC. The result was a really good acoustic baffle without worrying restriction of airflow to the PC's intake fan. The hiss and rumble heard in his "before" recording was all but gone in the "after" - still audible, but negligible by comparison. He was recording piano with mics positioned to pick up ambient sound, so with a mic pointed at a guitar or whatever the results would probably have been even better.
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Post by colan on Nov 30, 2013 8:28:06 GMT
I'd like to offer up my Zoom 4 for sale- now that there's a Zoom 8 in my christmas suspender-free nylon- but it's so small and convenient that I'm loath to part with it. Maybe when the features of the Zoom 8 palls it into insignificance. It's worth a mention that the price I paid for the Zoom 4 three or four years ago is about the same as a Zoom 8 today. I haven't checked out the quality of the ever-smaller kit introduced inbetween but even the audio quality of my digital camera on video mode is acceptable for uploads.
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Post by missclarktree on Nov 30, 2013 20:16:15 GMT
Alison - glad to hear you can try out a digital recorder soon. I'm sure your son can show you how it works, and you can probably find an instruction manual online if he doesn't have one, or if his simple explanations are not quite so simple. Let us know what machine it is/how you get on eh? Keith I will. And, you never know, I might eventually be able to learn a bit more from what people have said
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