jwdaubney
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Post by jwdaubney on May 22, 2016 20:27:55 GMT
Fair play Dave! Looking forward to see the final product.
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colins
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Post by colins on May 22, 2016 20:33:47 GMT
You're the best in the business at re-configuration Dave, and yes one day I'll remember to try your tail graft system, (though today I nearly forgot to put one in before gluing on the binding!  Colin |
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Post by earwighoney on May 23, 2016 16:04:11 GMT
I've done these regenerations before and they work well, so I'm re-using the Brazilian Rosewood back and sides of the guitar and building the rest "as new". The regenerated "Treebeard" will be a multi-scale instrument with a bass scale length of 735mm and a treble scale length of 720mm rather than the fixed 735mm scale length of the original, it will have a Florentine cutaway, Manzer style wedge, a new European Spruce top and mahogany neck and Macassar Ebony "trimmings". The new "Treebeard" will go with me to the Halsway Manor guitar weekend in July together with another "surprise" instrument.  I hope the new DW instrument will the the patented all destroying musical spicerack. What will become of the old TB neck? I think you need to build another TB for that neck! Great work as ever. Even though I have never made a guitar I think I'd need a Zoloft or two to rebend the BRW sides. Do you have any more sets of BRW in stock? It seems to be unobtanium in Europe. |
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Post by seren on May 23, 2016 19:58:27 GMT
I must adopt your technique of gluing all the decoration on the end-block right from the start - I know it makes sense. Agreed. I am going to have a go at this myself.  Shame we can't do the same with binding! Another nerve wracking job!  |
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davewhite
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Post by davewhite on May 24, 2016 15:54:51 GMT
Thanks James, Colin and Sam. What will become of the old TB neck? I think you need to build another TB for that neck! Do you have any more sets of BRW in stock? It seems to be unobtanium in Europe. Now pay attention Shubs - in the first post I explained the reason I was "regenerating" this "Treebeard" was because I don't have room here for another  The old neck had to be "deconstructed" to remove the carbon fibre rods which were then used in the neck of the "surprise" instrument and the ebony fingerboard will be re used on another instrument as one of my laminated/bound ones - all my instruments carry "organ donor cards" . I don't have any more Brazilian Rosewood sets. I've made six guitars with Brazilian Rosewood back and sides - my first five plus serial number 12 (built for a friend as a commission). Three were multi-piece backs from scantling Rio Rosewood from a local wood turning shop and the other three from full sized back and sides sets from Touchstone Tonewoods. It's often said not to use premium tonewood when you start out as your skills aren't worthy, but you can always come back to them later and "regenerate" them  The very last of my "De Faoite Anniversary Instruments" series will be a reworking of my first two - "Nancy" and "William". On with this "regeneration". Time to brace the back using Lutz spruce braces shaped to a 10' radius - look no radius dishes in sight :     |
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Post by earwighoney on May 24, 2016 19:15:42 GMT
Cheers for the info Dave. Kudos to choosing to use BRW for your first few builds, I don't think my nerves could handle such a thing!
Did you cut (or is the term 'plane') the pieces for the scantling BRW yourself? I remember reading a post on Stefan Sobell's blog. Would it be possible to use 6 string bass guitar fingerboard blanks to a similar extent? I came across some interesting blanks which I think could be make some interesting back and sides if it was possible.
Nice pictures as ever, great work.
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davewhite
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Post by davewhite on May 24, 2016 20:52:32 GMT
Cheers for the info Dave. Kudos to choosing to use BRW for your first few builds, I don't think my nerves could handle such a thing! Did you cut (or is the term 'plane') the pieces for the scantling BRW yourself? I remember reading a post on Stefan Sobell's blog. Would it be possible to use 6 string bass guitar fingerboard blanks to a similar extent? I came across some interesting blanks which I think could be make some interesting back and sides if it was possible. Nice pictures as ever, great work. When you start out you are pretty nerveless and stupid - at least I was - so it was no worry  . Yes I cut all of the pieces from the Rio Rosewood blocks and if the wood is good and long enough and there is enough of it it would be possible to cut and join up the bass guitar fingerboard blanks to make a back and side guitar set. |
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Post by davewhite on May 25, 2016 11:13:05 GMT
The sides are profiled for the back and top's curvature and the Lawson’s Cypress reverse-kerfed linings (from "The Tree") are glued in using fish glue. I decided that the thickness of the rim didn't merit a Manzer style wedge in the end:   |
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Post by davewhite on May 26, 2016 16:23:26 GMT
The Lawson’s Cypress side braces are notched into the linings and glued in using hot hide glue:  The 6mm carbon fibre rod flying-buttress braces are then glued in:  |
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Post by francis on May 26, 2016 16:36:59 GMT
Superb Dave - coming along really well  |
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R the F
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Post by R the F on May 26, 2016 17:42:06 GMT
In a weak moment last night I was very tempted by the idea of your flying buttresses and suddenly here they are again. I might use them to replace my /\ frame in a forthcoming guitar so that I can open up a bit more of the soundboard which is fenced off at the moment - so long as you don't mind, of course! (Then again, flying buttresses have been around for rather longer than any of us, I suppose.)
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Post by davewhite on May 26, 2016 19:51:19 GMT
Rob,
Feel free - I "borrowed" and adapted the idea from the American makers Mike Doolin, Rick Turner and Howard Klepper and I'm sure if you look back far enough similar concepts have been used in the distant past. That's the beauty of the free sharing nature and adaptation of this craft.
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R the F
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Post by R the F on May 26, 2016 20:00:43 GMT
I was thinking of the stone variety!
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Post by davewhite on May 27, 2016 11:51:37 GMT
The side sound-port is then cut:  Here’s the completed rim-set:  The Brazilian Rosewood X brace cap is glued on the back braces using hot hide glue:  The back braces are then carved and the back is “voiced” – here’s the result:  The linings are notched to accept the brace ends and the back is glued to the rim-set using fish glue:  |
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Post by Martin on May 27, 2016 12:00:36 GMT
Looking good. The cutaway for the back seems to have gone well |
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The very last of my "De Faoite Anniversary Instruments" series will be a reworking of my first two - "Nancy" and "William".
. Yes I cut all of the pieces from the Rio Rosewood blocks and if the wood is good and long enough and there is enough of it it would be possible to cut and join up the bass guitar fingerboard blanks to make a back and side guitar set.
Jo whoever he is.
