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Post by francis on Jul 1, 2016 12:48:51 GMT
What's happened to it, francis ? Or is it too upsetting for you to talk about it? Not honestly sure - initial coats white polish (15-18 or so) all went well and started building nicely. Changed to the special pale (both liberon products) and again initial coats were continuing to build and began to look quite good. Left everything for probably 36 hrs to harden and flattened with 600 grit wet-n-dry. Started again still looked good then overnight it just seemed to have ridged up (or areas sunk along the grain lines), few more coats to build up ready to flatten it again but it just looked worse. So, its been cut right back and flattened with #320 wet-n-dry now. I'm going to spray waterborne lacquer same as back and sides. Having flattened the surface it will just need a couple of coats. French polish will make a good base coat for the lacquer. So next step is to mask off the back and sides, touch-up a couple of small lines by the bindings where the finish has sunk and spray the front... |
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Post by R the F on Jul 1, 2016 15:49:37 GMT
Maybe you put too much on in one session; who knows? It always sinks into the grain given a few hours to settle but yours sounds a bit more dramatic than it should have been. I daren't really say too much about French polishing because everyone seems to do things differently and I suspect nobody ever feels really confident about their own technique. (I notice, for example, that Somogyi spends many pages merely writing out the notes he took when shadowing an expert polisher to learn the skill because he feels that's the best way to put across the subtleties of "the great art"; in other words, he's not really sure how to put it into his own words because there's so much vague tosh involved.) My approach is a bit rough and ready and I don't use oil. I always finish off by matting it with 0000 wirewool and then wax - because that's the way people like their furniture to look. That means I never get to the really bright "piano" finish that I suspect luthiers are after. However, I have noticed that factory guitars have started to favour a "satin" or "matte" finish so maybe that's the way taste is going.
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Post by francis on Jul 3, 2016 10:34:18 GMT
The waterborne lacquer has done the job. Two coats applied over the French polish. Couple of images of the Fan-fret on it own and against my original Triple O, both have Western Red Cedar soundboards and same treble scale lengths. Now I need to sort out a vacuum frame to fix the bridge on. Because I fitted the K&K pick-up early in the construction I can't use a standard clamping caul - vacuum seems the best alternative...   |
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Post by scripsit on Jul 3, 2016 12:45:03 GMT
Looking very good, Francis.
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Post by earthbalm on Jul 3, 2016 13:06:34 GMT
Looks fantastic. I'm looking forward to hearing it.
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Post by R the F on Jul 3, 2016 14:34:13 GMT
Exciting days; I bet you can barely wait to hear it play. Really lovely work, Francis (though I'm not convinced about your new(?) trademark... but brave for trying; I didn't have the guts to put anything on the headstock just in case I got it wrong! Something like this would be a bit different:)  |
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Post by scripsit on Jul 3, 2016 23:09:41 GMT
Exciting days; I bet you can barely wait to hear it play. Really lovely work, Francis (though I'm not convinced about your new(?) trademark... but brave for trying; I didn't have the guts to put anything on the headstock just in case I got it wrong! Something like this would be a bit different:) I like it, but you would have to go to a rectangular headstock, too. Kym |
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Post by francis on Jul 4, 2016 7:16:15 GMT
Might go back to the old logo - not sure - tried a few recently...  |
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Post by R the F on Jul 4, 2016 7:23:40 GMT
Don't listen to me; I'm just being irritating!
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Post by leoroberts on Jul 4, 2016 10:23:22 GMT
I have not a 'design' bone in my body, @francis, but I, too, prefer the older logo...
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Post by ocarolan on Jul 4, 2016 12:38:08 GMT
... another vote for the old logo!
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Post by earthbalm on Jul 4, 2016 17:09:54 GMT
I too like the older logo.
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Post by francis on Jul 4, 2016 18:23:40 GMT
I too like the older logo. Mmmm guess I'm going to have to get some new logo's made.... |
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Post by earthbalm on Jul 4, 2016 18:34:36 GMT
I'm not sure I'd seen the triple O before. It's a fine looking instrument.
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Post by ocarolan on Jul 4, 2016 21:56:13 GMT
I'm not sure I'd seen the triple O before. It's a fine looking instrument. Agreed - I was fortunate enough to be able to play it at Paul's Wimbourne guitar day recently - it sounded really good too, and played very easily. Keith |
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