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Post by dreadnought28 on Dec 24, 2020 3:46:57 GMT
Songwriters who make money from royalties are really badly hit. There was a parliamentary enquiry recently and I think I’m right in saying that the writer of a chart topping single had received just £100 from Spotify. Comparing with radio plays doesn’t work. Radio stations choose what they play, you can’t just turn on and listen to the song you want. Pre-streaming if you like something played on radio your only option was to go and buy it if you wanted to listen at will. That’s changed almost completely.
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Post by andyhowell on Dec 24, 2020 8:55:17 GMT
When I released my album Santiago, I decided to delay putting it out on Spotify for about 18 months, so I could sell physical CD’s and get some (a lot more!!) money back into my hands, coupled with a bit of PRS/PPL. After I’d sold the majority of what I thought I would at gigs, I put it on Spotify and forgot all about it. Sensible tactics!
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Post by slim on Dec 24, 2020 9:20:29 GMT
I had music from an old band sitting around on a hard drive, so as much for safe keeping and easy access as anything else I uploaded it to recordunion.com who put it on all the streaming sites. I completely forgot about it for a year, and when I finally remembered and checked I was pleasantly surprised to find enough money had been accrued to take my old bandmate out for a meal.
If I was taking music seriously again streaming would be part of the picture but like Amit, I would delay uploading to the streaming sites until I had milked the downloads and physical sales.
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Post by andyhowell on Dec 29, 2020 11:01:40 GMT
I'm not sure I would delay the streaming. I quite like looking for recommendations of stuff from people I don't like.I will check them out on streaming services but then will buy the album. I don't think my album buying has reduced since streaming, indeed, it might have increased!
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Post by Amit on Dec 29, 2020 20:38:30 GMT
I'm not sure I would delay the streaming. I quite like looking for recommendations of stuff from people I don't like.I will check them out on streaming services but then will buy the album. I don't think my album buying has reduced since streaming, indeed, it might have increased! I wish that was the case for most people, but alas conversations with people after gigs and with those who bought a CD tell me I’d have likely missed out on sales if the Spotify option was available. I much prefer your way of researching and then buying music though!
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Post by Matt Milton on Jan 7, 2021 12:24:32 GMT
I wish that was the case for most people, but alas conversations with people after gigs and with those who bought a CD tell me I’d have likely missed out on sales if the Spotify option was available. I much prefer your way of researching and then buying music though! Yes, I probably shouldn't admit to this but... I buy download albums off Bandcamp but am much less likely to if that album is on Spotify. Like many people, I listen to a lot more music than I really have the finances to pay for. I limit my music purchasing to around £20 per month (though it's gone up during lockdown as I'm not spending money going out). Simply put: if an album is not on Spotify but is on Bandcamp then I have to buy it. There's a second point here: if you sell albums on Bandcamp, make sure you don't allow every single track to be playable/streamable without purchase. Put, say, 7 out of 10 tracks audible. I notice that the record label Drag City does this with all its releases. That way an unscrupulous skinflint like myself cannot listen to the whole album without paying for it. Drag City ago a bit too far in my opinion, they only allow to preview two or three tracks which doesn't give you enough to go on with a new artist you don't know. I think you need to allow people to road-test at least 60% of the album: johnrenbourn.bandcamp.com/alasdairroberts.bandcamp.com/album/the-fiery-margin
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Post by Phil Taylor on Jan 7, 2021 19:44:19 GMT
I wish that was the case for most people, but alas conversations with people after gigs and with those who bought a CD tell me I’d have likely missed out on sales if the Spotify option was available. I much prefer your way of researching and then buying music though! Yes, I probably shouldn't admit to this but... I buy download albums off Bandcamp but am much less likely to if that album is on Spotify. Like many people, I listen to a lot more music than I really have the finances to pay for. I limit my music purchasing to around £20 per month (though it's gone up during lockdown as I'm not spending money going out). Simply put: if an album is not on Spotify but is on Bandcamp then I have to buy it. There's a second point here: if you sell albums on Bandcamp, make sure you don't allow every single track to be playable/streamable without purchase. Put, say, 7 out of 10 tracks audible. I notice that the record label Drag City does this with all its releases. That way an unscrupulous skinflint like myself cannot listen to the whole album without paying for it. Drag City ago a bit too far in my opinion, they only allow to preview two or three tracks which doesn't give you enough to go on with a new artist you don't know. I think you need to allow people to road-test at least 60% of the album: johnrenbourn.bandcamp.com/alasdairroberts.bandcamp.com/album/the-fiery-marginUnless I'm mistaken to be able to do that on Bandcamp you need to sign up to Bandcamp Pro which costs $10 a month.........
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Post by vikingblues on Jan 22, 2021 11:00:34 GMT
I noticed Streaming Services were the first item on the list of reason's for Marko Hietala's recent resignation from both Nightwish and from Public Life in total. OK - they are not the biggest band in the world, but are the third best selling musical artist in Finland and I believe Finland's biggest musical export. He drew the parallel of the relationship of the band and the music business in general, to that of a banana republic.
Mark
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