Welshruss
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My main instrument is: Turnstone, Wandering Boy & Santa Cruz
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Post by Welshruss on Jul 17, 2023 9:49:38 GMT
Phil, I use them on 24.75inch scale Santa Cruz 00, 24.9 Santa Cruz Skye 00, 25.0 Turnstone and 25.4 Bashkin 00. All 12 fret guitars, only my ladder braced Wandering Boy doesn’t have SC low tension strings. Sorry not metric scales!
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joncc
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Post by joncc on Jul 24, 2023 6:46:09 GMT
I’m interested to know if anyone here has used Stringjoy Foxwoods…the coated ones. I’ve got them on all my guitars at the moment and I’ve been very impressed with them so far. The company are interesting too and they have a good website and several very informative youtube videos. They are also cheaper than Daddario and elixirs, so a bonus.
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Post by forestdweller on Jul 24, 2023 7:25:46 GMT
Yeh, the foxwoods are a string I would like to try as well. Anyone use them?
Interestingly, the newtone double wounds I've got on continue to sound nice in dadgad, just not in any tunings requiring a low C. I guess if I want to use this guitar in a C tuning I must get a heavier gauge. I was doing some research on DR strings and came across an interesting demo between XS, DR rares and Newtone double wounds. For me the two nicest sounding sets were XS and Newtones (I marginally preferred the Newtones).
One other thing that has come out of my research is that the Santa Cruz are definitely NOT coated, which begs the question why are they so expensive, and why do they last as long as people claim?
Robbie
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Post by jonnymosco on Jul 24, 2023 8:37:37 GMT
Yeh, the foxwoods are a string I would like to try as well. Anyone use them? Interestingly, the newtone double wounds I've got on continue to sound nice in dadgad, just not in any tunings requiring a low C. I guess if I want to use this guitar in a C tuning I must get a heavier gauge. I was doing some research on DR strings and came across an interesting demo between XS, DR rares and Newtone double wounds. For me the two nicest sounding sets were XS and Newtones (I marginally preferred the Newtones). One other thing that has come out of my research is that the Santa Cruz are definitely NOT coated, which begs the question why are they so expensive, and why do they last as long as people claim? Robbie Hi Robbie - they use a micro-coating on their Parabolic Tension Strings. Info on the packet: 'State of the art metallurgy includes Phosphor Bronze windings with a propriety micro-coating. The cores and unwound strings are vapor treated with an anti-corrosive to assure the long life of these nickel and lead free strings.' Where did you read that they are definitely not coated? Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Jul 24, 2023 9:12:59 GMT
I'm experimenting with my McIlroy at the moment. I have just took Elixir's off to try the Newtone Heritage low tension to try to counter the longer scale effect (I'm used to short scale) and they seem ok in standard down a semitone and dadgad but not tried them on low C tunings yet. The thing I don't like about uncoated strings is the noise/squeak which I don't get with coated. I'm thinking of trying the Santa Cruz but since they don't give any gauges did you have any troubles fitting them on the nut? Also knowing your playing like I do Jonny I assume they are ok with all alternate tunings in your experience? Phil I am playing lots of tunings at the moment (including C tunings) on both Sobell with mid-tension and the 00 with low-tension Parabolic strings and they cope well, sounding great. I shall be recording some pieces soon, so will let you know. I've also not encountered any issues with the string width and nut. Jonny
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Post by forestdweller on Jul 24, 2023 10:15:56 GMT
I'm experimenting with my McIlroy at the moment. I have just took Elixir's off to try the Newtone Heritage low tension to try to counter the longer scale effect (I'm used to short scale) and they seem ok in standard down a semitone and dadgad but not tried them on low C tunings yet. The thing I don't like about uncoated strings is the noise/squeak which I don't get with coated. I'm thinking of trying the Santa Cruz but since they don't give any gauges did you have any troubles fitting them on the nut? Also knowing your playing like I do Jonny I assume they are ok with all alternate tunings in your experience? Phil I am playing lots of tunings at the moment (including C tunings) on both Sobell with mid-tension and the 00 with low-tension Parabolic strings and they cope well, sounding great. I shall be recording some pieces soon, so will let you know. I've also not encountered any issues with the string width and nut. Jonny It was here Jonny, 2nd page 3rd post down, straight from the horses mouth: www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515405&page=2Though I guess if the packet says coated they must be- noone seems to have briefed Richard Hoover though. Good to hear the low tensions work on your OO. Think I am delaying the inevitable and will have to go e them a try
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Post by jonnymosco on Jul 24, 2023 10:24:08 GMT
I am playing lots of tunings at the moment (including C tunings) on both Sobell with mid-tension and the 00 with low-tension Parabolic strings and they cope well, sounding great. I shall be recording some pieces soon, so will let you know. I've also not encountered any issues with the string width and nut. Jonny It was here Jonny, 2nd page 3rd post down, straight from the horses mouth: www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515405&page=2Though I guess if the packet says coated they must be- noone seems to have briefed Richard Hoover though. Good to hear the low tensions work on your OO. Think I am delaying the inevitable and will have to go e them a try The post is from 2018, perhaps they weren't coated then, but are now. Jonny
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Post by forestdweller on Jul 24, 2023 10:29:12 GMT
It was here Jonny, 2nd page 3rd post down, straight from the horses mouth: www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515405&page=2Though I guess if the packet says coated they must be- noone seems to have briefed Richard Hoover though. Good to hear the low tensions work on your OO. Think I am delaying the inevitable and will have to go e them a try The post is from 2018, perhaps they weren't coated then, but are now. Jonny Good point- I forget to look at the dates! These old threads keep getting resurrected on the American forum!
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Post by Martin on Jul 24, 2023 12:11:55 GMT
I did try the SC low tension strings, I bought two packs and used them on a short (24.9") scale 12-fretter and a normal scale (25.4") 14 fret guitar. On both the tone was pleasant enough, but the 2nd (B) string was far too floppy (yes, on both guitars). So much so, it was buzzing. I even thought I'd got the two top strings the wrong way around and swapped them, but it was exactly the same. I measured these strings with a Vernier caliper and both 1st and 2nd strings were exactly the same gauge! I know SC say that gauge means nothing, tension is everything, but the effect for me was awful. Took them off after a few days - waste of £40 for me. I appreciate I'm in the minority here, but was bursting to share I did try GHS Silk & Bronze strings recently, and I quite like them
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Post by Onechordtrick on Jul 24, 2023 12:30:40 GMT
Put some Headway Everlux on my Little Jane. May just be the increased tension but they give a more lively sound than the Newtone’s they replaced. They’re also coated but lack the soapy feel I always associate with coated strings. So finally some coated strings I can get along with.
Headway are a new name in strings for me but I’m pleased so far.
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Post by fatfingerjohn on Jul 24, 2023 15:32:10 GMT
I’m interested to know if anyone here has used Stringjoy Foxwoods…the coated ones. I’ve got them on all my guitars at the moment and I’ve been very impressed with them so far. The company are interesting too and they have a good website and several very informative youtube videos. They are also cheaper than Daddario and elixirs, so a bonus. I'd ne interested in trying a set of these, 12-54 and the coated ones. But I've had a search around UK and best price including delivery of 1 set seems to be around £18-19 whih is quite a bit more than the Dragon Skins which I'm trying at the moment. Do you know where to get them in UK for a better price?
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joncc
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Post by joncc on Jul 24, 2023 16:58:48 GMT
I got mine from Andertons, they were £14.99 for 11s and 13s. 12s for some reason were £15.99. I was comparing them to elixirs. Worth checking out peach guitars too
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Post by fatfingerjohn on Jul 24, 2023 21:46:53 GMT
I got mine from Andertons, they were £14.99 for 11s and 13s. 12s for some reason were £15.99. I was comparing them to elixirs. Worth checking out peach guitars too Thanks. They add about £5 for p&p though which is a shame. I'll look round a bit more. FFJ
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Post by forestdweller on Jul 25, 2023 5:32:26 GMT
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Post by Phil Taylor on Jul 25, 2023 6:55:43 GMT
I'm experimenting with my McIlroy at the moment. I have just took Elixir's off to try the Newtone Heritage low tension to try to counter the longer scale effect (I'm used to short scale) and they seem ok in standard down a semitone and dadgad but not tried them on low C tunings yet. The thing I don't like about uncoated strings is the noise/squeak which I don't get with coated. I'm thinking of trying the Santa Cruz but since they don't give any gauges did you have any troubles fitting them on the nut? Also knowing your playing like I do Jonny I assume they are ok with all alternate tunings in your experience? Phil I am playing lots of tunings at the moment (including C tunings) on both Sobell with mid-tension and the 00 with low-tension Parabolic strings and they cope well, sounding great. I shall be recording some pieces soon, so will let you know. I've also not encountered any issues with the string width and nut. Jonny's I've done a bit of digging. The SC low tension set has a total tension of 156 pounds and the mid tension set has a total tension of 163 pounds. From the link here (PB Nanoweb) you can see that my normal Elixir strings (12's) are 162 pounds so there's not a lot of difference in tension unlike the Newtone Heritage 12's which are 131 pounds. From the above it seems to me that only the Newtone's are true low tension. They feel low tension too but to me it's detrimental to the sound and being uncoated squeak a lot and don't last anywhere near as long for me. I suppose the question is is calling the SC strings low and mid tension a misnomer or am I missing something here Phil Ps despite what I said above the Newtone strings still sound quite good in standard tuning but less so in DADGAD so there may be a compromise to be done for some but nevertheless unlikely for me.
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