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Post by andyhowell on May 27, 2017 17:23:42 GMT
I think small shops and luthiers using the stuff is significant but I wonder whether the baby boomers - worried they will peg it before the guitar opens up - is the most significant factor.
When I am at a computer I will share a story (which I think is funny)
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Post by nkforster on May 27, 2017 17:24:47 GMT
Nigel, I really liked the sound of the guitar on the video and I am sure that your playing helped bring out the inherent properties of the instrument. If you can make it to Halifax this year and the guitar hasn't been sold please bring it along. Ged. It was made to order I'm afraid. Glad you like it. n
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Post by andyhowell on May 28, 2017 9:00:14 GMT
I have a friend who has got into very high end guitars since he retired. He doesn't come here much (maybe to lurk a bit). He is an obsessive follower of that other forum though, possibly to the extent of damaging his mental health. His collection includes some high end Santa Cruz and Lowdens as well as some nice guitars made by luthiers most of you would know. He gets them out occasionally and twiddles with them. He talks endlessly about tone woods, baking tops and goodness knows what else. He is now worried about what to do with the guitars in his will !!!
But for me his lovely guitars are just not played enough and not really played in. I keep suggesting he focuses on one (or two) and just beats the shit out of it on a regular basis (a technical term I think). I'm sure this would help them develop their sound properly.
I can see why people want a good quality that doesn't need twenty years to open up. I tend to buy a good guitar every 15 years or so and it did strike me when commissioning the Lucas that this might be the last time I did it (quickly put the back of the brain). But if I was commissioning a guitar from Nigel (you never know) I'd still be more interested in the cylinder top.
I was lucky enough to play one of Nigel's guitars a few years ago and it was stunning. I have to say I preferred it to the Sobell's I have played recently.
So, my simple take is that these guitars do need to be played. I know there are people like Chris Stern with big collections who simply don't see the light of day very much (because of their incessant playing) but IO wonder how many of these folks are like my mate?
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Post by lavaman on May 28, 2017 9:32:21 GMT
I keep suggesting he focuses on one (or two) and just beats the shit out of it on a regular basis (a technical term I think). I'm sure this would help them develop their sound properly. I'm convinced all guitars sound better when they have plenty of dents and scratches.
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Post by andyhowell on May 28, 2017 9:43:54 GMT
I keep suggesting he focuses on one (or two) and just beats the shit out of it on a regular basis (a technical term I think). I'm sure this would help them develop their sound properly. I'm convinced all guitars sound better when they have plenty of dents and scratches. Mine certainly do (well that's my story and I'm sticking to it ...)
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Post by davewhite on May 28, 2017 10:14:36 GMT
I'm convinced all guitars sound better when they have plenty of dents and scratches. I'm convinced all guitars sound better when their players have plenty of dents and scratches
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Post by andyhowell on May 29, 2017 13:21:25 GMT
I was lucky enough to play one of Nigel's guitars a few years ago and it was stunning. I have to say I preferred it to the Sobell's I have played recently. Before I upset too many people (see, I am mellowing my old age) I should say that the Sobell that jonnymosco has been playing recently simply sounds astonishing! SaveSave
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Post by spug on May 29, 2017 14:16:58 GMT
But for me his lovely guitars are just not played enough and not really played in. I keep suggesting he focuses on one (or two) and just beats the shit out of it on a regular basis (a technical term I think). I'm sure this would help them develop their sound properly.
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Post by spug on May 29, 2017 14:20:10 GMT
Sorry that went wrong, it should of said best technical term ever but my phone messed up so I'm going to technical term it ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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Post by jonnymosco on May 29, 2017 16:10:10 GMT
I was lucky enough to play one of Nigel's guitars a few years ago and it was stunning. I have to say I preferred it to the Sobell's I have played recently. Before I upset too many people (see, I am mellowing my old age) I should say that the Sobell that jonnymosco has been playing recently simply sounds astonishing! SaveSaveI agree with you Andy! I've only played Nigel's Session King and his stripped down bargain basement guitar, so difficult to compare. However, one of the best guitars I have ever played was built by Nigel whilst he was with Stefan under the Sobell name. ianlp59 owns it - a 12 fret model O I think, gorgeous. I shall be playing the guitar in Nigel's vid soon as a student ordered it on my recommendation. Jonny
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Post by andyhowell on May 29, 2017 20:59:15 GMT
Oh, I expect a report back !
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Post by earwighoney on May 30, 2017 10:06:03 GMT
I absolutely love the herringbone rosette and purfling. Great sounding guitar.
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Post by nkforster on Jun 3, 2017 13:04:35 GMT
I absolutely love the herringbone rosette and purfling. Great sounding guitar. That purfling is more or less what we used to do on Sobell guitars in the 80s. It was only seeing that first guitar I'd made (my old pal Paul owns it now) that I remembered how nice it is. So for the SKadv range, that's what I use - herringbone. Nigel www.nkforsterguitars.com
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Post by jonnymosco on Jun 9, 2017 10:35:38 GMT
I've played the guitar - it is fantastic, really incredible. I compared it to my Sobell Steinbeck which is almost four times the price and, to be honest, no way is it a 1/4 the sound, or build, quality.
I've played another of Nigel's SKs, which I'd describe as pretty niche and not an all-rounder, but this 'posh' one, with the torrefied sitka is very versatile: great for fingerstyle and chordal strumming. Very balanced, focused with a beautiful shimmering resonance.
Jonny
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