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Post by andyhowell on May 3, 2018 6:42:50 GMT
I appreciate the Guitar in a D way but adding those two frets might make the guitar more uncomfortable to play especially when standing?
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Post by nkforster on May 3, 2018 9:10:11 GMT
I appreciate the Guitar in a D way but adding those two frets might make the guitar more uncomfortable to play especially when standing? The same thing applies to every baritone guitar Andy. Mind, this one has a heavy body - which adds weight but balances the neck perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 13:33:11 GMT
Like asking me to say whether I prefer Cornish Yarg or Cornish Brie- both equally delicious in my opinion. Am intrigued as to why you have gone for such an enormously long scale for dadgad? Do you have to put very light strings on? 27” in in serious baritone territory. Robbie Two ways to look at the 27" scale - a baritone - you can tune this down to A if you get your gauges right. The other way is the Sobel "Guitar in D" way - Take a regular guitar, add two frets to the nut end and you get a D guitar. Tune it to D. Add a capo to the second fret - you've got a regular guitar. Best, n www.nkforsterguitars.comI get all of that Nigel, I have a long scale guitar myself, but only 26”. My question was why you might need such a long neck for dadgad? Surely it would be better the C equivalent of dadgad? Also, can you explain the maths of what you are doing by adding 2 frets? Surely that means you change the fret where the neck joins the body? Either that or the bridge has to move? Surely it’s not as simple as just adding 2 inches to the neck, as the position of the frets will all have to shift. Do you get what I mean?
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Post by nkforster on May 3, 2018 22:03:34 GMT
The way scales work, it actually is as simple as adding two frets to the nut end. Of course, you have to know where those frets should be placed. That's how all my instrument scales work - you start with a standard guitar scale. Keep the bridge position static. Chop off two frets and you have an octave mandolin. Or add two frets and you have a baritone/guitar in D. Chop off 5 from the guitar standard scale and you have a mandola. If you don't get it, don't worry about it. It only matters if you want to order something from a maker to solve a particular problem. And that problem is usually about tension and intonation. You can tune a guitar however you like with most scales if you get your gauges right. Why would anyone want a long scale D? Tension and intonation. When you drop tension (tune down) your intonation starts to go. This is most noticeable when playing the upper frets on the bass strings. The lower you go the more you need to stretch the compensation. So, this way it avoids that compromise. Many folk can't hear it, but some can. For those, I'd tune the guitar to D. For the rest of us, yes, C would be no problem at all. Raise the gauges and B, to A would be possible too. Also, some players don't like the feel of slack guitars. Ian loves a bit of tension. A bit of a fight. Martin Simpson did too when I worked for Stefan. If I still have the guitar in a week I'll ask the lads to make another video. This time tuned down. Nigel www.nkforsterguitars.com
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Post by vikingblues on May 4, 2018 18:48:34 GMT
They both sound good. But for me the fingerstyle has the edge because it seems to have more feeling and more variation in tone.
I do often find that if I listen to playing done with a plectrum for too long I start to crave more variation in the type of sound.
Doesn't make so much difference on fast pieces but on slow tempo I feel the difference becomes much bigger.
Mark
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