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Post by jackorion on Dec 11, 2018 9:08:11 GMT
As far as I can tell this is about youtube being classed as a broadcaster of copyrighted material and having to pay the copyright holders their dues. As you rightly say curmudgeon you're not stealing anything when you post a cover of somebodies song on youtube - but youtube are broadcasting that song to, potentially, many millions of people and could sell advertising to be played on that video, or use the fact that I watched your bob dylan cover to push me towards watching other content based on that song, or even just use the number of views you've recieved to say 'hey we get loads of views, advertise with us' So, as far as I can see it, Youtube benefits from the use and broadcast of copyrighted material - they might not generate the material themselves, but they are responsible for the content being broadcast. In the same way that if I was on the radio and I performed a cover of a song, that performance should be reported to PRS etc and the copyright holder paid for the broadcast of their song, I believe youtube should ahve to pay copyright holders for the use of their work.
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Post by dangad on Dec 11, 2018 9:28:14 GMT
The comparison with Radio is one that I've been thinking about too. From what I can gather Youtube are taking the stance that they are "just a tech platform" and therefore these responsibilities lie with the users, but as I understand it from a few things I've seen from Youtubers (not an area of the internet I know a lot about or a have a lot of time for!) Youtube already "interfere" with Yotube bloggers as to what they can/can't do so they are already NOT content agnostic. Feels like a lot of people these days are wanting their cake and eating it
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Post by curmudgeon on Dec 17, 2018 10:16:56 GMT
I'm sorry that many seem to not understand. You~Tube will block any YouTube videos that are currently regarded in the USA as "fair Use" - i.e. covers of songs by other people for the whole of the UK. This will happen most likely at the end of January. As I understand it - we will be unable to load videos. View videos made by European or others sources that "may possibly" contravene the New EU rulings, and will probably block or remove videos of covers by Europeans internationally. Like me - The silly moustache channel has only 1200 subscribers and under quarter of a million views but it is important to a number of people, not least me.
I like to view videos of (mainly) US based musicians, and also history, language and current affairs channels, not least "DUST" a great short science fiction channel. I am not trying to spread the word because I am against the EU, in fact this will be our first demonstration of how weak we will be after Brexit when we have no voice. At present we (kinda) have a voice and you have MEPS - write to them.
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Post by jackorion on Dec 17, 2018 11:06:29 GMT
I'm sorry that many seem to not understand. You~Tube will block any YouTube videos that are currently regarded in the USA as "fair Use" - i.e. covers of songs by other people for the whole of the UK. This will happen most likely at the end of January. As I understand it - we will be unable to load videos. View videos made by European or others sources that "may possibly" contravene the New EU rulings, and will probably block or remove videos of covers by Europeans internationally. Like me - The silly moustache channel has only 1200 subscribers and under quarter of a million views but it is important to a number of people, not least me. I like to view videos of (mainly) US based musicians, and also history, language and current affairs channels, not least "DUST" a great short science fiction channel. I am not trying to spread the word because I am against the EU, in fact this will be our first demonstration of how weak we will be after Brexit when we have no voice. At present we (kinda) have a voice and you have MEPS - write to them. If Youtube choose to block videos rather than pay their dues then why should we write to our MEPs? Surely we should be writing to Youtube (owned by Google, a company allegedly worth over 700 billion dollars) and tell them that if they want to broadcast copyrighted material then they should have to pay like other broadcasters do. Maybe I don't understand but, from what I've seen, Youtube seem to think they shouldn't have to recognise when a video uploaded to their platform contains copyrighted material and pay the copyright holders, that somehow they're not responsible for the content of their platform.
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Post by andyhowell on Dec 21, 2018 8:05:30 GMT
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