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Post by curmudgeon on Feb 23, 2019 15:20:41 GMT
I had a trigger finger release procedure done yesterday and my right hand is badaged up the size of a boxing glove, so ... typing with left hand only, and unable to play, or garden, or even scratch really!
Also learnt from the surgeon that the sore lump in the palm of my left (fetting) hand is Dupuyten's contracture.
I'm a bit miffed about that. Anybody had this ... stuff and got over it?
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 23, 2019 15:57:29 GMT
You have Viking blood then!
Lots of my family have it and my brother has just had one finger 'released'. It does recur though. Thankfully I have no sign of it. I hope yours isn't too bad as it can totally restrict finger movement. (Oh, and alcohol increases risk of it developing and severity.)
Jonny
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Post by curmudgeon on Feb 23, 2019 16:28:30 GMT
Hi Johnny, yes my grandfather (min farfar en skurk) was from Gotland.
I thought he had just left me an interesting tale to tell, but seems he left my this too! Probably far too late, but I've given up drinking as after the cancer treatment, I can't taste it anyway.
Has any of your afflicted family have it successfully "repaired" ?
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 23, 2019 16:52:05 GMT
My brother just had his procedure a few weeks ago, so, too early to tell - but he did pick up a guitar the other day without any pain, but he isn't into finger gymnastics. Sorry to hear what you've had to go through and hope yours can be sorted.
Jonny
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Post by oustudent on Feb 23, 2019 17:05:27 GMT
I have Dupuytren's in both hands, I am currently going through radiotherapy treatment to try and stop it from getting any worse. Some people get it and don't get any contracture and some do.
Contracture is not what any guitarist want's really.
The NHS will fob you off and say come back for an operation when one of your fingers bends through 180 degrees.
J
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Post by Phil Taylor on Feb 23, 2019 20:12:00 GMT
I've had DC following a wrist operation for approximately 12 years. The top part of my left hand little finger is bent to almost a right angle. It's affected my stretch and I can't hold down more than one string with it but I've adapted to it. I've known two people who have it quite severely, had the operation and and it came back quickly. I like to think that playing guitar has helped keep it at bay Phil
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Post by oustudent on Feb 23, 2019 23:17:16 GMT
I have Dupuytren's in both hands, I am currently going through radiotherapy treatment to try and stop it from getting any worse. Some people get it and don't get any contracture and some do. Contracture is not what any guitarist want's really. The NHS will fob you off and say come back for an operation when one of your fingers bends through 180 degrees. J Shocking grammar, I must have been tired (;-)
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Post by PistolPete on Feb 25, 2019 15:12:15 GMT
My grandfather had Dupuytren's - he had the operation to release it & regained 'normal' movement for about ten years. He was offered a second operation when it recurred but felt the increased risks associated with undergoing a general anesthetic later in life with other ongoing health problems outweighed the benefits. It must be said he wasn't a guitarist though. It ran in his mother's side of the family and he had a number of tales of elderly aunts trying to hide it as they dealt bridge.
As far as I know, it's likely to be something you have to live with until it becomes severe enough to justify surgery, although it can advance much more slowly in some people than others.
My father, who is a guitarist, shows no signs, which might hopefully mean I could be spared.
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Post by bellyshere on Feb 26, 2019 15:00:09 GMT
My brother and my mother both have contracted fingers and i have the classic lump on my palm. It worries me as not being able to play again would be the most depressing thing ever. I don’t have any contraction yet but the NHS won’t do anything. I am assuming the radiotherapy treatment isn’t on the NHS.
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Post by oustudent on Feb 26, 2019 15:09:18 GMT
Radiotherapy is available on the NHS, as far as I know only Royal Preston will do it.
Private is £5,000.00
J
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Post by bellyshere on Feb 27, 2019 13:39:41 GMT
Radiotherapy is available on the NHS, as far as I know only Royal Preston will do it. Private is £5,000.00 J Ouch! How much?
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Post by ianlp59 on Feb 27, 2019 15:18:13 GMT
Hi Johnny, yes my grandfather (min farfar en skurk) was from Gotland. I thought he had just left me an interesting tale to tell, but seems he left my this too! Probably far too late, but I've given up drinking as after the cancer treatment, I can't taste it anyway. Has any of your afflicted family have it successfully "repaired" ? Andy, taler du saa Dansk? Og var din farfar virkelig en skurk? Could be a good tale in itself... Cheers, Ian
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Post by bleatoid on Feb 27, 2019 23:53:32 GMT
I've not heard of this condition before but it sounds highly debilitating and thoroughly unpleasant - I hope you afflicted people find an (affordable) medical resolution.
Interested to hear of the "viking blood" connection, and wonder if it's more prevalent than average in the North East of England which is where I'm from? I've always suspected that those poor innocent vikings were probably ravaged by my female ancestors as they waded ashore.
Though I'm actually of Irish extraction so probably more prone to potato blight.
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Post by Phil Taylor on Feb 28, 2019 0:21:23 GMT
I've not heard of this condition before but it sounds highly debilitating and thoroughly unpleasant - I hope you afflicted people find an (affordable) medical resolution. Interested to hear of the "viking blood" connection, and wonder if it's more prevalent than average in the North East of England which is where I'm from? I've always suspected that those poor innocent vikings were probably ravaged by my female ancestors as they waded ashore. Though I'm actually of Irish extraction so probably more prone to potato blight. From what I can gather it affects different people with different amounts of severity. For some, like myself it is very, very slow whereas it can be rapid in others. I also understand that some sort of injury to the hand or wrist, or after surgery to these areas can initiate it which was the case with me since it doesn't run in my family. Phil
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Post by MartinS on Mar 11, 2019 16:12:25 GMT
Hello Curmudgeon,
Just logged in after a while away and noticed your post.
You were asking about players who had DC, well I can give some first hand (geddit?) experience of both DP and a guitar player.
I had DC in both hands, very severely in my left hand such that my pinkie was flat against my palm, and my third finger was about 60 degrees off the palm. My right hand third finger was about 120 degrees off the palm. It was one of those things that crept up on me, but eventually became really annoying when playing the fiddle and windsurfing/climbing. (I wasn't as deep into guitar playing then.)
I had operations in both hands - about ten years ago I had my left done first, under a general anaesthetic, and a year later my right hand under a local.
My recovery went well, it probably took 5 or six years for the nerve damage to completely repair. This was worse on the left hand because of the extent of the surgery. The feeling was as a loss of sensation on the finger surfaces), but now my hands are fairly normal, and no signs of it coming back soon. The actual improvement in movement in my hands was fairly instantaneous, about 6/8 weeks after the ops I had regained most of the movement I had lost. It really felt to me like a minor personal miracle, and I was kicking myself I hadn't pushed to get the operations much sooner.
There's a risk with any surgery, but with a good surgeon, I would be confident of going through the procedure again if I had to, there really hasn't been any downside at all apart from the stress of being in a hospital for the first time in my life :-)
And I have some great scars on my hands to impress people with, so there's yet another upside!
m.
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