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Post by Martin on Sept 2, 2013 15:45:34 GMT
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Post by Phil Taylor on Sept 2, 2013 16:04:20 GMT
Lovely guitar if somewhat a little too blingy for my taste. However I love the slot head 12 fret 00 classic Martin shape and the sound in the GuitarGuitar video is great Phil ps Bit pricey and you could perhaps get a Kostal or something for the same. Having said that you would not have to wait 6 years for a Martin which is I understand the waiting time for a Kostal at the moment.
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 2, 2013 16:23:21 GMT
Agree with you about the shape and bling Phil! In particular, what on earth is the soundhole rosette inlay work doing crawling over the end of the fingerboard as well?! Keith
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Post by scorpiodog on Sept 2, 2013 17:06:33 GMT
In particular, what on earth is the soundhole rosette inlay work doing crawling over the end of the fingerboard as well?! Perspex fingerboard? Need to be bloomin crystal to require that kind of price. 7 grand for a factory built guitar! That Martin brand sure is worth something!
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Post by cottonopolis on Sept 2, 2013 17:23:36 GMT
You could always get it on tick for £7,500
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Post by sigmadel on Sept 2, 2013 23:44:47 GMT
It is a lot of cash but to a Martin collector maybe worthwhile . Put it this way I'll never be able to afford it and even if I had that kind of cash I'd rather have 3 or 4 other really good guitars and a decent amp . Still not as bad as the ridiculous thirty grand or so for a Greenfield .
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Post by sigmadel on Sept 3, 2013 1:28:09 GMT
Sorry my last post sounded a bit crass . In my opinion thirty grand is way too much for a guitar but there are those that love them and are prepared to pay that . I know after hearing Johnny's Kostal its a stunning sounding instrument and no doubt worth every penny . The true value of an instrument is only what a person or persons are prepared to pay for it and the joy it brings to them .
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Post by scripsit on Sept 3, 2013 1:49:33 GMT
I understand the collector mania in some ways, and I'm sure this is a nice guitar, but for that sort of money why wouldn't you commission a luthier to make you something special, instead?
There are now enormous waiting lists and huge prices for those independent luthiers who have a high profile, but there are plenty of better than competent guitar builders around who can produce beautiful and useful instruments for decent prices.
I've never come across a high end factory guitar that matched either of my privately built guitars for fingerstyle (admittedly not a big sample available around here for me to lust after, I've tried a few OM and OOO Martins, including the Eric Clapton model, and two top of the line Taylors). The locally built Maton and Cole Clark guitars are awful, even the custom shop models I've been able to try.
And these factory guitars were typically 2 to 3 times the price of high spec instruments from local luthiers.
And I agree with others, that rosette continuation over (under?) the fingerboard is very silly looking indeed.
Kym
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Post by marcus on Sept 3, 2013 6:39:54 GMT
Hi Kym,
I'd be interested to hear what local guitars you've got. Is that a Spira in your avatar?
Cheers, marcus
Oh, and so as not to derail this thread, I love the size and shape, but could also do without the inlay.... and then, by jove, it would be a great deal more affordable.
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Post by Martin on Sept 3, 2013 7:20:06 GMT
It is a lot of cash but to a Martin collector maybe worthwhile . Put it this way I'll never be able to afford it and even if I had that kind of cash I'd rather have 3 or 4 other really good guitars and a decent amp . Still not as bad as the ridiculous thirty grand or so for a Greenfield . Just to clarify about Greenfield (in case Michael pops in here ), his guitars are about $14,500 (or £10,000) for a base model. Still a very hefty price tag, but not as high as you might think. His model GF guitars are $8,500 (about £5,500). Ervin Somogyi charges a base price of $30,000.
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 3, 2013 7:25:58 GMT
This is just aimd at collectors. Personally, I feel guitars should be played!
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Post by scripsit on Sept 3, 2013 8:05:33 GMT
Marcus
Yes, the guitar in my avatar is a Jack Spira 0000 (with a cutaway, of course). This has a fairly big box, 650mm scale length, cocobolo back and sides and a sitka top. All wooden purflings and bindings, the most visible being in Rose Mahogany (a native timber).
No bling or inlays (although there is Jack's stylised 'S' on the headstock) except for the rosette, which has shell and herringbone.
This guitar is usually in DADGAD or other dropped tuning. After I had it for about eighteen months I ordered another Spira, with matching appointments (even down to the art deco style bridge and cutaway), this one a 12 fret slothead 000 size, but still 650mm scale, which I use for normal and dropped D tunings.
I like both of these guitars very much.
Kym
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 3, 2013 8:18:31 GMT
Kym, I enjoyed looking at the Spira website, and found your excellent paragraph in the customer recommendations section. If ever you get the time, how about doing us a (short or long!) review of your guitar(s) - I'm sure there'd be a lot of interest - any pics, recordings welcome too of course. The commissioning of a custom guitar is an interesting process, and anything you may have to share concerning that would be well received. But no pressure! Keith
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Post by sigmadel on Sept 3, 2013 8:47:03 GMT
It is a lot of cash but to a Martin collector maybe worthwhile . Put it this way I'll never be able to afford it and even if I had that kind of cash I'd rather have 3 or 4 other really good guitars and a decent amp . Still not as bad as the ridiculous thirty grand or so for a Greenfield . Just to clarify about Greenfield (in case Michael pops in here ), his guitars are about $14,500 (or £10,000) for a base model. Still a very hefty price tag, but not as high as you might think. His model GF guitars are $8,500 (about £5,500). Ervin Somogyi charges a base price of $30,000. Sorry Martin , that's why I put up the second post last night . Having never actually played any of these custom hand made guitars I shouldn't comment at all and as I said no doubt the people who own such instruments love them and feel they are worth every penny . I only used Greenfield as an example as the one i had seen was about the most expensive outside a vintage instrument . At the same time though some folk would prefer to own something like a Taylor or Martin , Gibson etc... because they are buying into that brand and reputation for high quality whilst hoping in years to come that it will increase in value , especially if its a limited edition model . I hope I didn't cause any offence by my post , all I meant by it was why slate Martin but be happy to spend double that amount or more when at the end of the day its down to individual preference and if we all played the same guitars life, and all those hit records would be a bit boring .
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Post by Martin on Sept 3, 2013 9:07:11 GMT
No problem with your post Derek, I just wanted to make sure the Greenfield price was represented as it is, since there are one or two Greenfield owners on here and many more fanciers There are luthiers out there who can charge significantly more than that, but then it is their time, their expertise and their art that one is paying for. In many cases, it is the exclusivity of having a very rare and individual instrument that adds to the price. My OP was just pointing out that 7k seemed like a high price tag for a Martin guitar, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not worth it
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