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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 15:20:10 GMT
Does anyone have experience of shipping guitars internationally if they are on the CITES lists?
Specifically, I have a Cocobolo guitar (CITES appendix 2) and there is a potential buyer in the US. I've had one helpful opinion suggesting there should not be an issue so long as it's "finished goods" and not raw wood I'm exporting. Does anyone know how to obtain "official" confirmation from CITES or Customs for such a scenario?
Many thanks Mark
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Post by earwighoney on May 13, 2015 16:25:07 GMT
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davewhite
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Post by davewhite on May 13, 2015 16:41:16 GMT
If it's going to the US you also have the Lacey Act documentation requirements to deal with. See this thread.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 17:00:49 GMT
You may well be right about the bridge - I'll confirm with Ralph but I'm fairly sure it is BRW. In which case this guitar is probably not going to the US!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 17:07:33 GMT
If it's going to the US you also have the Lacey Act documentation requirements to deal with. See this thread. Thanks - I think if Ralph confirms that the bridge is BRW then export to the US might be out of the question!
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Post by Trevor TAMCO on May 14, 2015 7:09:59 GMT
If there is any BRW its not possible. If there isn't and there is any shell you will also have to deal with the FWS documents, also posted in the other thread.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 15:46:19 GMT
Thanks all; your advice has been very helpful and gratefully received
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Post by vicov on May 14, 2015 18:02:02 GMT
OK Mark, now it's been established that your guitar is next to worthless, I'll start the bidding at £15.
Cheers Vic
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 21:10:04 GMT
OK Mark, now it's been established that your guitar is next to worthless, I'll start the bidding at £15. Cheers Vic Sorry, sold for slightly more than £15
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Post by vicov on May 15, 2015 6:06:57 GMT
OK Mark, now it's been established that your guitar is next to worthless, I'll start the bidding at £15. Cheers Vic Sorry, sold for slightly more than £15 £17.50?
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Post by keithambridge on May 15, 2015 8:27:27 GMT
My Brother always fills in reams of paperwork (and has sleepless nights) when he ships to the U.S. What I discovered reading bits of the Lacey Act was that it does not apply to non commercial transactions, and if the importer (the person you are selling to) is importing it for personal use, then only the customs papers supplied by the couries is enough. This is what I did shipping a vintage Hofner Bass to the U.S. The buyer had it in his hands in 60hrs from leaving me, and we tracked it all the way!
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Post by creamburmese on May 15, 2015 20:50:57 GMT
I just received a bill from my state for state tax - 2 years after my Brook guitar was imported from the UK to the US... yikes! I should refuse to pay on principle, except they will keep whacking on penalties if I don't. So I ended up getting dinged for both state and federal tax (the federal tax was collected at the time of the import). I don't agree about the Lacey Act unless it would be different with 2 individuals involved ( I bought from Brook). Customs held up my guitar in Chicago until they had the Lacey act paperwork - I can probably post a copy if anyone is interested in what it looks like. On the other hand I"m sure the enforcement is hit and miss so you might get lucky -
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Post by keithambridge on May 17, 2015 11:09:59 GMT
Sorry Creamburmese, I meant private seller to private buyer
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Post by dreadnought28 on May 19, 2015 1:17:00 GMT
Sorry, sold for slightly more than £15 £17.50? I did indeed pay a bit more than £17.50! Export problems no longer an issue, I'll have the guitar with me in July at Ian's do.
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