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Post by geddarby on Sept 29, 2015 9:07:08 GMT
I find the neck profiles quite similar (a little more beef on the 000) but their is definitely more space at the nut and saddle on the 000.
Having said that the D18vs is more generous at both points than a D18 or J45.
Should you be interested in the 18 please pm me (no pressure)
As an aside I recently saw two ads. on Gumtree for Sigma 00028 vs both for ca £200
Ged
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Post by dawkins on Oct 12, 2015 6:39:50 GMT
It's a great shame in my view that Martin are now putting those low profile performance necks on virtually all their mainstream guitars, including the retro series. Ironic too, since there's nothing retro about a neck profile that seems to be setting out to compete with Taylor. The modified V is a supremely comfy neck once you get used to it, especially for fingerpicking, but perhaps it's just too much of a handful for Martin's current target demographic. Or maybe I just like retro to mean retro... I thought I could get on with it but I really don't like the performance neck - it just feels weird, liek they've put a cheap epiphone neck on a £2K guitar! The modified V is by far and away my favourite neck shape, and ideally with 2 5/16th at the saddle - this is the neck on my OM28v and I can play that for hours comfortably and with no stress on my hands... I think it's only available in that configuration on the OM28 Authentic now (£5999!) or with a wider nut on the 0,00, and 000 28 VS models... I have to admit that, once again, the Fylde is starting to drift into the 'sell it' area again and a 00028vs or 0028vs tempts me... I love the performance neck on my Martin 00018E Retro, but not being a previous Martin player - I never thought I would buy one! - I can't compare it over the long term to other Martins. However, at the time of purchasing this guitar I tried numerous other Martins with differing neck configurations and I was of the total opposite opinion: one 2.7K Martin seemed to me to have a neck that referenced a cricket bat from JD Sports - somewhat worse than a cheap Epiphone offering. I'm also used to playing large necks on classical guitars so this came as a surprise. Neck shapes/profiles are, of course, a matter of personal preferences and strangely for me this Martin has been the only guitar that I have wanted to play for hours on end without fatigue, and it sounds incredible too. Maybe I have dropped on a good one but having spent in excess of 10K over the last three years trying to settle on a guitar (Fyldes, Larrivees, and more) this is by far the most comfortable and responsive instrument I have had in my hands. I probably fit into that current Martin demographic but I think it's just good progress really because my research concluded that the vast majority of owners with these new necks were really happy. The term 'retro' is generally used to refer to a stylistic or visual references of the past and is not therefore intended to be a replica — which is a different concept. Visually this guitar is stunning and does indeed have a retro look which some may like and some may not. It's a bit like we have been locked into a retro photograph look for over 10 years now (with apps like instagram et al) but the production of those images comes from the very latest technological gear. I'm not a quote type guy, but this famous one from McLuhan probably sums up how I feel about such matters. 'When faced with a totally new situation we tend always to attach ourselves to the objects, to the flavor of the most recent past. We look at the present through a rear-view mirror. We march backwards into the future.'
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Post by jackorion on Oct 13, 2015 9:00:50 GMT
Well I guess that's why there's so many different guitars out there, we all like different things!
Back to the original post... The Fylde left for its new owner yesterday so I finally moved it on.
I was a little sad to see it go, but it was the right decision - the guitar just didn't mean what it once did to me and could bring someone else more happiness than it was bringing me.
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Post by Riverman on Oct 13, 2015 13:39:26 GMT
Well I guess that's why there's so many different guitars out there, we all like different things! +1 to that! dawkins, I'm glad you like your new guitar - I dread to think how much I've shelled out on that quest, though taking into account resale values I haven't actually spent all that much. I'm not generally a Luddite (at least not about guitar stuff) but it felt ironic in the extreme that, just as I found the perfect Martin neck for me, they more or less did away with it. So, whilst if anything happens to your 000-18 you'll be able to replace it, I'll be out of luck, at least as far as the new OM28 goes. Judging by some of the comments I read on US forums at the time, I wasn't the only one to find it a backward step. Still, I did take the precaution of acquiring two further modified V necked Martin OM/000s, so with luck I guess they'll see me out! Not sure I agree on the retro thing...the Collings Waterloo fits my (admittedly loose) definition of retro, and if they were a bit (OK, quite a lot!) cheaper I'd probably have bought one already, just for the neck profile. Now that's what I call a cricket bat!
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