Andy P
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Post by Andy P on Jan 19, 2016 19:11:23 GMT
I've been playing my Lowden, fitted with coated strings, almost exclusively lately. In the past couple of days I've done some noodling on the Breedlove, with non-coated strings, and I find the ends of my fretting fingers have become quite sore.
Is this normal?
Yours
Worried of Wendron
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007
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Post by 007 on Jan 19, 2016 19:50:33 GMT
Dear worried of Wendon
do not concern yourself its probably the fact that the strings are uncoated or that you have been playing your guitar to excess
Sore fingers can be relatively easily cured by dipping the affected digits in a freshly slaughtered pigs bladder exactly on the hour of midnight in a circle of mushrooms reciting the lyrics to stairway to heaven backwards.
If a freshly slaughtered pig is unavailable try dipping your fingers in a box of Birds Eye fishfingers that have been mixed in some paraffin Make sure to use pure cod ones not haddock
Good luck
Dr Marcus Twangster MD
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Andy P
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Post by Andy P on Jan 19, 2016 21:43:38 GMT
I'm on it Dr. Will report back. PS Are you NHS or will you be billing me?
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007
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Post by 007 on Jan 20, 2016 10:09:45 GMT
£250 per consultation my son and cheap at half the price. We do however do 2 consultations for the price of 3 contact my receptionist Sugar Kowalcyk for further details
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Post by colins on Jan 20, 2016 11:42:53 GMT
OK, so two different guitars as well as different strings.
A few things to consider, are they the same scale length? a longer scale length means higher tension for the same frequency therefore more pressure on the distal end of the digit.
Action, a higher action will also mean higher pressure needed to fret the string.
An often forgotten, but critical part of set up and often the cause of sore finger syndrome is the nut slots are too high, this can lead to a much higher pressure needed to fret the strings especially in the upper frets. Try fretting the string at the third fret and checking the clearance at the first fret, should be about 0.1mm at the first going to 0.15mm at the sixth.
If none of this works, well I guess it's back to the pig's bladder!
Colin
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Post by fatfingerjohn on Jan 20, 2016 11:43:58 GMT
I'd hate to have to use Dr Twangster to cure my back, knee and various private parts issues. The mind boggles at the suggested cures ......
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007
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Post by 007 on Jan 20, 2016 15:40:28 GMT
I'll have you know I hold a PHD from The University of Neasden in Applied car Mechanics
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Post by leoroberts on Jan 20, 2016 17:37:13 GMT
Now, you all know me, I'm not the sort that gets riled about the small stuff... but, surely, Dr Marcus Twanger MD is a tautology. If he is an MD then he is clearly a doctor. The only people who need to put their title in front of their names are those who hold a PH.d. as their doctorate could be in a wide variety of academic fields that are entirely unrelated to medicine. Added to this is the lack of suitable punctuation (how exactly do you slaughter a pig's bladder?) All this leads me to believe that 007 is a charlatan and practices quackery. Of course, there are some who are so secure in their own worth that they don't feel the need to prefix their names with their valediction. There. That's better. Dr Leo Roberts
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Post by martinrowe on Jan 20, 2016 19:12:24 GMT
Dr Leo It's PhD - tut, tut. Mind you, if it's from Neasden, it could well be a PH.d As for the calluses, the better the calluses the better the pull-offs - that's right isn't it?
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Post by andrewjw on Jan 20, 2016 19:46:21 GMT
this leads me to believe that 007 is a charlatan and practices quackery. History tells us that OO7 was definitely a bird fancier thus his specialities should come as little surprise.
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Post by leoroberts on Jan 20, 2016 22:09:42 GMT
Dr Leo It's PhD - tut, tut. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa ... even when it stands for Plumbing, Heating (decorating)
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Andy P
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Post by Andy P on Jan 21, 2016 19:37:19 GMT
OK, so two different guitars as well as different strings. A few things to consider, are they the same scale length? a longer scale length means higher tension for the same frequency therefore more pressure on the distal end of the digit. Action, a higher action will also mean higher pressure needed to fret the string. An often forgotten, but critical part of set up and often the cause of sore finger syndrome is the nut slots are too high, this can lead to a much higher pressure needed to fret the strings especially in the upper frets. Try fretting the string at the third fret and checking the clearance at the first fret, should be about 0.1mm at the first going to 0.15mm at the sixth. If none of this works, well I guess it's back to the pig's bladder! Colin I never had a problem when I played the Breedlove all the time Colin. It seems to me that my finger-ends must have softened slightly using the coated strings, then when I reverted to the uncoated they've suffered a little. I'll probably put coated on all my guitars. I like the way they feel and there's no noticeable loss of tone that I can detect.
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Post by Andy P on Jan 21, 2016 19:44:13 GMT
Dear worried of Wendon do not concern yourself its probably the fact that the strings are uncoated or that you have been playing your guitar to excess Sore fingers can be relatively easily cured by dipping the affected digits in a freshly slaughtered pigs bladder exactly on the hour of midnight in a circle of mushrooms reciting the lyrics to stairway to heaven backwards. If a freshly slaughtered pig is unavailable try dipping your fingers in a box of Birds Eye fishfingers that have been mixed in some paraffin Make sure to use pure cod ones not haddock Good luck Dr Marcus Twangster MD I'm allergic to paraffin and I'm having trouble finding a pig's bladder. I've contacted the Prime Minister's private secretary, who apparently has ready access to carcases for his boss's gratification.
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Post by 007 on Jan 21, 2016 19:59:46 GMT
Well done BL if I can help anyone else with their "personal problems " do let me know
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