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Post by bellyshere on Mar 23, 2016 19:57:29 GMT
Howdy folks. I want a mic that will work for both acoustic and vocals at the same time. So, one mic. Too big an ask? Should i just use two? I thought i could get one good one for both. Any ideas?
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Post by earwighoney on Mar 23, 2016 22:15:49 GMT
A decent LDC should do the job for vocals and guitar.
Are you looking to record both of them at the same time? If you are looking to do that then I'd recommend a separate one for each.
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Post by ocarolan on Mar 23, 2016 22:55:12 GMT
Small condenser will do the job too. I've used a cheapish ATM33a (now discontinued, replaced by AT8033) to record and for live use to pick up voice and guitar, sitting down though, to reduce distance between guitar and gob. Mic placed a couple of feet away. For live use it can feel less restrictive than 2 close mics, but does require a quiet environment with a listening audience.
Keith
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Post by lavaman on Mar 23, 2016 23:12:44 GMT
I suggest having a look at a Large Diaphragm Condenser mic, like a Rode NT1 or an SE electronics sE X1 or an Audio Techniqa AT2035. If finances allow, any LDC mic from AKG would be good.
I bought a used sE4400a on ebay. It's great.
Iain
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Post by bellyshere on Mar 24, 2016 4:23:56 GMT
Both at same time yes.
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Post by michaelwatts on Mar 24, 2016 11:23:16 GMT
The Neumann U87 has been the industry standard for this sort of thing for decades.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 12:22:18 GMT
Probably too expensive but take a look at the Rode NTR. On their website you will find a youtube video where the entire song was recorded with one of these Ribbon miscs. Ribbon mics aren’t for everyone, as they can be easily damaged, and you need plenty of gain on the preamp, but they do work on practically everything,
Robbie
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Post by bellyshere on Mar 25, 2016 10:38:49 GMT
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Post by vikingblues on Mar 25, 2016 18:46:11 GMT
Just to add a twist to this I've found that if I was to use two microphone, one each for acoustic guitar and for vocal, for best results I'd go for small diaphragm condenser for the guitar and large diaphragm condenser for the vocals.
The faster transient response of the small diaphragm means it should pick up more detail and subtleties of the guitar sound. That's certainly been my experience. With a voice like mine the large diaphragm is better as it doesn't pick up all those subtleties of sound - breathing, clicking teeth, slurping noises etc.
Mark
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Post by jackorion on Mar 26, 2016 7:30:05 GMT
I used a single Rode NT1a to record guitar and vocals at the same time on my E.P. - benmorganbrown.bandcamp.com/album/2016-e-p - although I did mix in a tiny amount of pickup signal from the guitar. I really like this approach as you don't have to worry about phase or leakage, and you have to get a good performance as you can't really 'fix it in the mix'. I've done a couple of gigs where they've just stuck one mic up and run it to a small PA as a little bit of sound reinforcement and it was fine, but the audience were very quiet and it was a small room - I wouldn't want to do it in a large noisy pub.
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Post by bellyshere on Mar 26, 2016 18:17:00 GMT
Sounds good for one mic that Ben.I might pick up one of them.
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Post by andyhowell on Mar 26, 2016 21:07:03 GMT
Small diaphragm = accurate sound.
Larger diaphragm = adds warmth.
The Rodes are always good value. For a bit more cash the Mojave range are extraordinarily good.
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Post by Andy P on Mar 26, 2016 23:44:40 GMT
As a matter of interest, would a Rode NT5 be up to the job?
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Post by bellyshere on Mar 27, 2016 14:30:51 GMT
I don't think the NT5 would be great for vocals.
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Post by andyhowell on Mar 27, 2016 15:44:11 GMT
As a matter of interest, would a Rode NT5 be up to the job? Probably not. There are some people who want to move towards small diaphragm mics but at the affordable end the larger mics will give you extra warmth and body which most people associate with good sound. You will need more processing after recording. There are some good and affordable large Rode mics available that have always been good options.
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