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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 28, 2017 9:19:19 GMT
I received this photo yesterday - no explanation, so a bit of a shock. But at last, I'm assured, the Martin O16 I picked up in New York a few years ago has had its neck reset. I'll be collecting it later today. More photos and details to follow... Jonny
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Post by Phil Taylor on Jan 28, 2017 9:52:40 GMT
Looking forward to this Jonny - any other repairs needed such as cracks etc.?
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Post by Wild Violet on Jan 28, 2017 10:12:32 GMT
I'm looking forward to your before/after opinions! Which luthier did you use?
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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 28, 2017 23:30:56 GMT
Here are some more photos: A great job! Dave Smart in Oxford did it (used to run Oxford Guitar Gallery) - top bloke and seasoned pro. Lots of cracks which were tidied up and reinforced where necessary. The back was coming away too. As you can see from the photos, the bridge had to be re-glued. It is a joy to play and sounds pretty sweet. The action is a little low for my style of playing, so Dave will sort that out this week - then I'll record some stuff. Cheers Jonny
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Post by ocarolan on Jan 28, 2017 23:43:02 GMT
Excellent news Jonny. It's a lovely guitar and I'm glad you've got it sorted! Looking forward to hearing it.
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Post by geddarby on Jan 29, 2017 10:22:32 GMT
Video asap please.
Ged
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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 30, 2017 9:50:19 GMT
Crazy busy at the moment, so the video will appear later this week... I started a thread on the guitar over three years ago on how I come to own it. My dream, as for lots of guitarists, is to go to the States and discover a vintage Martin for a bargain price, that's basically what happened. I was in New York for the summer three years ago and a friend offered the guitar to me for peanuts. I snapped it up even though it was in pretty bad condition. Here are some photos from three years ago. Photos restored to follow. Cheers Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 30, 2017 11:53:56 GMT
Here's a recording pre-neck-reset from three years ago; tuned a tone lower due to the fragility of the soundboard - Martin Silk and Steels.
Jonny
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Post by colins on Jan 30, 2017 12:20:16 GMT
A 1968 guitar, so that's with BRW bridge and FB, and HHG construction, made before they changed factories in 1969 and the quality went down imop. The 60s small body mahogany/adirondack Martins to me are the best sounding of them all. I've got a 1963 OO-18 sitting in its case here unplayed , ideally needing a neck reset and new bridge. Colin
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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 30, 2017 12:51:14 GMT
Hi Colin - the serial number indicates it was made in '69... why do you think it is from 1968 (be great if it were)?
The headstock veneer is BR too I think.
What is HHG construction?
Jonny
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Post by colins on Jan 30, 2017 13:26:01 GMT
No you are right it is 69, but a pre-factory change guitar so you are good! Yes the headplate will be BRW as well, when they moved factory they changed to EIR and Sitka for their 16-18 series guitars, only some of the higher end guitars still used BRW/Adi. The HHG is for Hot Hide Glue, rather than an Aliphatic resin glue, much easier for repair and is thought to be tonally more transparent, but of course more difficult to use in a factory setting Dave and I still only use these 'Collogen' glues both HHG and Fish glue. The earlier guitars, yours included, were much closer to being luthier built rather than production line factory guitars in the Nazareth PA factory. So, you've got a great little guitar there.
Colin
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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 30, 2017 13:39:23 GMT
Thanks Colin - well, it's a keeper!
HHG the same as scotch glue? That's what I used when I made my classical.
Jonny
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Post by colins on Jan 30, 2017 14:15:53 GMT
Scotch glue is a bit of a catchall name for these collogen glues. If the glue you used had to applied hot then yes probably HHG, otherwise it may have been a rabbit skin, hoof glue or fish glue or even an HHG with the addition of some urea which keeps it liquid at room temperature, but yes still a collogen glue.
Colin
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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 30, 2017 14:19:49 GMT
Yes, it was heated - very forgiving for a novice like me (easy to clean off!).
Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 4, 2017 12:23:12 GMT
colins - the guitar states Nazareth inside as the location... does that mean it was made in the second factory you refer to? Thanks Jonny
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