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Post by PistolPete on May 28, 2017 19:42:56 GMT
I've been asked by a venue to provide PAT certificates for a gig in July. I'm just wondering if anyone is familiar with the rules on what needs tested or not?
The government guidelines say anything with a plug counts as a 'portable appliance', but that would presumably mean that cabs, mics etc wouldn't need tested as they're running off a powered mixer?
Likewise a battery powered busking amp would presumably be exempt?
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Post by thejamsinger on May 28, 2017 20:13:01 GMT
Have a look on the HSE's website. You would probably only have to do amps, pa and any extension leads. Basically anything with a plug on it.
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Post by MartinS on May 30, 2017 13:22:07 GMT
Yes, anything with a plug or a mains socket.
Bit of advice, if you haven't done this, tell the tester you'll be going for a retest period of 2yrs. (If he dates the stickers.)
2 years is the retest period for lightly used portable equipment.
Otherwise you might get a sticker on everything which says next test date 12 months away, which looks bad after a year, and when it's not necessary.
It's usually about £1 per item to test.
m.
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Post by Martin on May 30, 2017 14:33:45 GMT
The company I'm with does this professionally for clients (not musicians, though ) and yes it's designed to test via the plug and power lead, so anything without that is not included. £1 per item? That's some deal you've got there, MartinS Saying that, it shouldn't be more than £2 per item, there are PASS stickers with re-test dates that should then be affixed to the appliance(s) and you should receive an asset register with details of all tested devies, where they are, what they are and whether they passed or not, with a summary of re-test dates.
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Post by MartinS on May 30, 2017 20:43:54 GMT
£1 per item is cheap, and that's on-site, too. but we Scotsmen know how to sniff out a deal! I think it was minimum £40 though, but we have do a minor heap of PA stuff. If anyone around Glasgow is interested I can pass on details. Now how do I tag folk? Martin ? m.
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Post by Wild Violet on May 30, 2017 21:46:15 GMT
wow, I hadn't even thought about PAT testing. The shop near us charges £10 per item.
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Post by ocarolan on May 30, 2017 22:05:38 GMT
............... Now how do I tag folk? Martin ? m. Just hover your cursor over the person's name where it appears in green type - the thing to type to tag that person appears - just type what you see. It begins with @ and continues often, though not always with what appears in the green type version of the name. eg your name MartinS is achieved by typing @ immediately followed with no spacing by martins. Hope this helps. Keith
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Post by fretter on May 31, 2017 8:44:56 GMT
Some interesting information here from the HSE website. www.hse.gov.uk/electricity/faq-portable-appliance-testing.htmBy taking all reasonable precautions, you are covering yourself in the event of a fault causing injury, and a subsequent claim against you. It is worth remembering that insurance cover should be obtained to cover other - non electrical - accidents. This may well be a requirement of many venues.
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Post by andyhowell on May 31, 2017 21:36:32 GMT
It seems like a reasonable investment to make to me. Playing in chain venues will make this more of an occurrence.
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