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Post by Craig on Sept 16, 2018 19:45:57 GMT
Could any of you have a listen to this and see what you think might be causing the weirdness on the 3rd note A? E String.mp3 (212.13 KB) Thanks Craig
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Post by Craig on Sept 16, 2018 20:36:00 GMT
Or can anyone hear a problem or is it just me?
Craig
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 21:20:02 GMT
Definitely an odd noise on the last note. Is it all the notes at that fret? I’m sure the luthiers here will chip in with what could be wrong.
Robbie
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Post by oustudent on Sept 16, 2018 21:20:55 GMT
I hear something strange on the third note. Sound like a secondary note caused by the string vibrating agist the frets. Possible causes, action too low. Truss rod tweak may fix it. Check your relief.
J
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Post by Craig on Sept 16, 2018 21:22:14 GMT
No it just seems to be that A note, it occurs to a lesser extent on the B string 10th fret.
Craig
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Post by oustudent on Sept 16, 2018 21:27:17 GMT
Could also be a loose truss rod.
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Post by Craig on Sept 16, 2018 21:29:40 GMT
Could also be a loose truss rod. That had occurred to me, it does sound metallic but there's been no change in the action. Craig
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 16, 2018 21:31:52 GMT
Deffo a weird resonance after the note. As it occurs on the A note on the B string too I don't think it's anything action/relief/fret rattle related. Frequency related, yes. Might just be worth carefully tightening any screws/nuts that can be tightened - endpins, tuner buttons, tuner to headstock fixing nuts and (gently so as not to alter it if not loose), the truss rod adjuster. Also check for any unwanted/excessive string windings potentially catching on something. Try detuning all the strings a little and retuning. If still there try a new set of strings altogether, checking that your ball ends are correctly seated. (!)
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Post by robmc on Sept 16, 2018 21:32:45 GMT
Hi Craig, I think it could be the string vibrating against the fret/s above where you are fretting the string... try and place a finger above the fretting finger on the string to effectively deaden it above the fretting position... I had a similar thing and thought it might be a loose truss rod but it was the sting vibrating against a fret above the note... it particularly happened on one guitar on the low e on a certain fret when I plucked the a string.. of course I could be talking gibberish too.
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Post by oustudent on Sept 16, 2018 21:35:19 GMT
Could also be a loose truss rod. That had occurred to me, it does sound metallic but there's been no change in the action. Craig Truss rod can become loose in its channel, it happened to me on a Santa Cruz that I once owned. Not so much the sound more of a vibration on the neck, but it also caused some unwanted sounds with the vibration.
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 16, 2018 21:35:39 GMT
...though I should add, as I believe I have mentioned before somewhere, the trickiest odd noise I ever had to track down turned out to be my shirt button vibrating on the back of the guitar with particular notes.....
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Post by Craig on Sept 16, 2018 21:47:34 GMT
...though I should add, as I believe I have mentioned before somewhere, the trickiest odd noise I ever had to track down turned out to be my shirt button vibrating on the back of the guitar with particular notes..... Well I'm not telling you what I'm wearing but I can definitely discard that suggestion :-) Craig
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Post by Craig on Sept 16, 2018 22:01:28 GMT
Thanks for all the suggestions guy,
I don't think that it's fret buzz because it seems to be coming from the body and also that it happens on the B string too. I have changed the strings to no effect and I'm sure all my balls are in place!
There are no electronics in it so I'm suspecting that it might be the truss rod. but it can't be a loss of tension if the action hasn't changed can it?
Craig
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 16, 2018 23:10:53 GMT
Is it a dual action truss rod? If so there is a central neutral position where the rod applies no tension/pressure in either direction. If your guitar was set up with the truss rod adjuster at or very near the neutral position the adjuster could well be loose enough to vibrate even though no difference in action or relief detected. Just a thought.
Relieved to hear that your balls are satisfactorily positioned!
Whatever - bring the guitar with you to HB9 for a quick once over by any/all of the loofahs that will be there.
Keith
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Post by Craig on Sept 17, 2018 6:05:51 GMT
Is it a dual action truss rod? If so there is a central neutral position where the rod applies no tension/pressure in either direction. If your guitar was set up with the truss rod adjuster at or very near the neutral position the adjuster could well be loose enough to vibrate even though no difference in action or relief detected. Just a thought. Relieved to hear that your balls are satisfactorily positioned! Whatever - bring the guitar with you to HB9 for a quick once over by any/all of the loofahs that will be there. Keith Thanks Keith, Yes it is a dual action truss rod so that could possibly be the case, I did tighten it up a little when I first put my regular type of strings on it though. Yes I'll bring it along to Halifax although I can only make it during Saturday daytime. Craig
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