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SM58s
Sept 5, 2019 10:38:40 GMT
Post by Cams on Sept 5, 2019 10:38:40 GMT
I've used an SM58 for at least 15 years now. But when I was buying a PA for running bigger shows, I bought a four-pack of Red Audio mics for £100. I've since bought another four-pack as I ended up selling the first pack to the venue where we played every week. Totally solid mics and a very good price too. They do the £100 deal every now and again, so subscribe to their email list if you're interested. www.red5audio.com/product/rvd30-dynamic-microphone/
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Post by soundout on Sept 9, 2019 21:25:36 GMT
Hello all Nice to see something on here about vocals rather than guitars! I’m getting towards the end of a live sound engineering career, which has run parallel to my performing and recording. Just spent a weekend on the desk at Bromyard festival, with approx 50 singers using my batch of SM58s. I have to say that after all these years, I’ve yet to find a vocal mic I prefer! I put up a decent Beyer mic on one end of the stage this weekend, listened to several singers through it, and still I preferred the 58s. Maybe my ears are indoctrinated! But the audiences agree by complimenting the sound time and again. Accuracy is not always the holy grail - just look at all the debate about vinyl vs CD. SM58s do colour the sound, but in a way that clearly appeals to musicians and audiences alike. I remember the pre-58 mics and how thrilled everyone was when the 58s arrived on the scene. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! Cheers Alistair Russell.
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Post by curmudgeon on Oct 7, 2019 16:36:41 GMT
The main problem wih SM58s - is that so few peole really seem to know how to use them. If I remember correctly they have a bass boost when close micing to enable a vocalist to "whisper" but most seem to slap their lips on the front so they always have that bass boost and , frankly you can't understand what they are singing or saying. Keeping back about 4-6" (and doing that for the soundie to enable him/her to Eq you for that, and they make a tolerable sound.
Whatever happened to "mic' technique?
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SM58s
Oct 7, 2019 23:57:23 GMT
Post by dreadnought28 on Oct 7, 2019 23:57:23 GMT
Hello all Nice to see something on here about vocals rather than guitars! I’m getting towards the end of a live sound engineering career, which has run parallel to my performing and recording. Just spent a weekend on the desk at Bromyard festival, with approx 50 singers using my batch of SM58s. I have to say that after all these years, I’ve yet to find a vocal mic I prefer! I put up a decent Beyer mic on one end of the stage this weekend, listened to several singers through it, and still I preferred the 58s. Maybe my ears are indoctrinated! But the audiences agree by complimenting the sound time and again. Accuracy is not always the holy grail - just look at all the debate about vinyl vs CD. SM58s do colour the sound, but in a way that clearly appeals to musicians and audiences alike. I remember the pre-58 mics and how thrilled everyone was when the 58s arrived on the scene. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! Cheers Alistair Russell. Agreed! I still like my 30 year old, good as new, 58 as much as most other vocal mics, particularly at its price point. I’ve also, surprisingly, had positive feedback when I’ve occasionally used a 57 as a guitar mic in conjunction with the 58. The sound of both is superior to “tolerable”.
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SM58s
Oct 8, 2019 7:56:20 GMT
Post by andyhowell on Oct 8, 2019 7:56:20 GMT
SM58s? There are other brands available and most of them work as microphones ;-) There are decent alternatives available, some of which have been mentioned, but there is a reason that the SM58 has lasted so long. It is a pretty decent compromise in terms of its frequency curve and it is literally bomb proof. I regularly sing through 58's that have huge dents in the grill and must be years and years old — they tend to get passed around when people give up their PAs. It is very much horses for courses. As Wild Violet has pointed out the beta is probably best suited to most female voices — that's certainly something that I have found. But many male vocalists prefer them as well and often bring them along for their own performances. I own a beta but my preferred mic in a Sennheiser 935 which is particularly well suited — I feel — to my voice. But in a noisy bar room with dodgy acoustics who is going to know? You might as well stick to the 58, the Samson, the Behringer or whatever. But to come back to Pete's issues — the Beta is a fine mic and in no way inferior !!! I'm surprised that after all these years the Beta tag is still on this and maybe that is the problem!
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Post by andrewjw on Oct 8, 2019 21:50:40 GMT
I'm a big fan of the Heil PR 35 for male voices...a considerably higher output than the SM 58 and to my ears a clearer yet warmer sound...ideal for acoustic music. More expensive than the SM 58 but not break the bank sort of money and equally robust...see the end of the vid below! It doesn't work quite so well for female voices though...my favourite there is the EV 367S....again clear yet warm. Both mics seem very resistant to popping and feedback ...once again really important in a [hopefully ] quiet acoustic music environment.
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