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Post by leoroberts on May 7, 2024 21:02:05 GMT
It is so refreshing when artists rework older songs to suit their voice and age, too many more mature artists still think they are teenagers and it just doesn't work or sound good. I think he's talking about you, Mr McCartney
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Post by doc on May 7, 2024 22:21:14 GMT
I absolutely love the original Joni Mitchell recordings, and performances. I really don't like the rework of both sides now, it's lost all of the sparkle and energy of the original. Each to their own of course. I agree that the original had sparkle and energy and that went a long way to making the song a huge success. But I feel that the rework has a wistfulness that is appropriate to a much more mature woman. I’m not saying that one is better than the other but the different treatments are appropriate, in my opinion. I’m happy to enjoy both. Appropos this, I’ve always preferred Wilson Picket’s Hey Jude to that of the Beatles.
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Post by ocarolan on May 7, 2024 23:02:27 GMT
I love Mark Knopfler's later life take on Romeo and Juliet - it's really not that different from the original in many ways, but the way he sings it, especially in the final verses, does come across as somehow more meaningful from an older man's perspective looking back. I find it quite moving -
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Post by lavaman on May 8, 2024 6:33:26 GMT
Loved it. It's soo... laid back. Great accompaniment from Robbie McIntosh and the pianist too.
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Post by ocarolan on May 20, 2024 15:51:54 GMT
It seems this question has been around for some time -
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Post by shez on May 21, 2024 9:44:24 GMT
"If it sounds good, it is good"
Great thread.
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Post by Mike Fowler on Jun 9, 2024 13:17:49 GMT
I can't offer anything of more value to this discussion, so many excellent points made, so I'm writing this as a way of thinking out loud. I used to teach guitar thirty years ago and often the kid would want to learn a solo note for note.
I think the only value for that is in how you learn from it.
If you learn that a particular sound comes from playing a scale in this particular way, or that halfway through the solo the mode changes from G mixolydian to D Dorian, and that's why it sounds like that, over that set of chord changes, then all well and good.
If you're not learning something that you can use in another piece of music, I don't really get the point.
But that only applies to improvised lead playing, whether that be rock, folk or jazz, whatever.
I mainly play classical these days and even in that world, arrangements of pieces change a lot. As long as you understand the principles involved such that you can learn and then apply them in other pieces of music...I think that's key.
So to answer the OP question, should you play exactly the same? It depends on whether by doing it that way, you're learning anything from it.
If I ask a non English speaking person to copy a stanza from Shakespeare word for word, and he understands nothing of what he writes, what is the point?
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