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Post by ocarolan on Mar 8, 2015 21:39:57 GMT
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Post by stephen on Mar 9, 2015 6:32:03 GMT
 Interesting, I'm pretty sure the previous owner added an electric nut as it was badly glued on so it's possible he altered the tuners too. If I use nylon strings on these will it affect the tone? Should I buy new string rollers. I'll upload a pic... |
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Post by leoroberts on Mar 9, 2015 7:18:23 GMT
I'm going to take a punt here and assume there's no label? Keith is dead right about the possibility of a 'Lowden-esque' pinless bridge and I would normally say that the white binding is more reminiscent of a steel string but...  |
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Post by davewhite on Mar 9, 2015 7:49:30 GMT
How is the top braced and can you post a close up photo of the bridge?
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Post by stephen on Mar 9, 2015 7:59:23 GMT
Not sure how to explain how the top is braced what are the options? It has a couple of horizontal braces, the one behind the bridge was cracked, the guitar top was ripped and bellied badly. I did think that the white trim and the thinness of the body seemed less 'classical' than I was aware of but I assume its a reasonably priced mass production guitar from Japan and the lowden pinless sounds a bit specialist here some pics, thanks for help so far!   |
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Post by davewhite on Mar 9, 2015 8:17:12 GMT
Stephen, Is the bracing something like this:  If so it's not a classical but an old ladder braced parlour type guitar. The lack of any angle on the saddle slot for variable string compensation indicates that it was used with nylon or gut strings and I'd be inclined to use either nylon or a set of silk & steel strings on it. No need to change the tuners. You could use light gauge steel strings if the top is braced strongly enough for them using the bridge as a pinless one but the straight saddle slot - and probably where it is positioned - would give intonation issues. |
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Post by stephen on Mar 9, 2015 12:42:24 GMT
that looks and sounds about right. I'm also going with nylon as I figure it's less pressure over the crack i 'fixed' too.
I've ordered the nut so just need to make sure i remove all the superglue which sits where the old nut was, any tips there? I was going to attack it with a scalpel, thin file and sandpaper, generally trying to be very careful
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Post by davewhite on Mar 9, 2015 13:30:59 GMT
Sounds like a good plan to me.
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Post by stephen on Mar 12, 2015 19:57:33 GMT
Hello resident luthiers, I bought the nut on the first page of my post, now that its arrived it has really deep string slots, so deep in fact that when I push the nut in place the slots sit below the level of the fretboard, what's that all about? I wonder if someone had previously butchered the nut base/ area. Question is , how do I build up that area to a height which brings the strings to a reasonable height?
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Post by davewhite on Mar 12, 2015 21:24:56 GMT
Hello resident luthiers, I bought the nut on the first page of my post, now that its arrived it has really deep string slots, so deep in fact that when I push the nut in place the slots sit below the level of the fretboard, what's that all about? I wonder if someone had previously butchered the nut base/ area. Question is , how do I build up that area to a height which brings the strings to a reasonable height? The best way is to buy a bone nut blank that's tall enough, fit it and slot it yourself. The second best way is to pay a guitar tech to do that for you. |
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Post by stephen on Mar 13, 2015 6:30:53 GMT
Yeah, I figured as much, ta
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Post by leoroberts on Mar 13, 2015 9:25:41 GMT
The best way is to buy a bone nut blank that's tall enough, fit it and slot it yourself. The second best way is to pay a guitar tech to do that for you. I'm fairly sure you've got those the wrong way round, Dave |
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Post by windminstrel on Mar 13, 2015 19:46:11 GMT
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Post by stephen on Mar 20, 2015 17:02:39 GMT
Time and effort, I agree, if only I was retired I could blast it out in a day but 10 minutes here and there....
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