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Post by Cams on Jun 29, 2017 20:42:49 GMT
I'm really struggling not to go for interest-free finance on a Taylor 410E Baritone 6 LTD. If only it didn't have a sunburst, it would be so much easier to close down the tabs and walk away. And to think I never used to like sunbursts at all! I play guitar in a bluegrass band and often the fiddler switches for guitar, so I've been using my capo to give me different voicings. But imagine what I could do tuned down! It would also be quite useful in the studio for different textures. On the last track I recorded, I played low notes in dropped D then pitched it down an octave in my DAW. It sounded okay, but this would give me something else. I am planning to make more music in the studio now that I'm getting the hang of it, which was a big factor in my recent turning to the dark side with an electric guitar. I think this pretty much qualifies as a mid-life crisis, brought on mainly by my mum's death almost a year ago and a musical childhood friend of mine's death last month at the age of 43. It's been a pretty tough year, but musically very fertile. I've been down the justification route during GAS attacks before. So far I've honed the collection down to four acoustics and they ALL get played often - two for live and two at home. I'm still not sure where the electric will fit in, but if it turns out not to, I can sell it. Same goes with a baritone, but I've a feeling that I could really make it work in what I do. Am I nuts?
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Post by malcolm on Jun 29, 2017 21:48:15 GMT
A baritone can be a lovely instrument, and useful, especially if you play with others. Having said that, I've just sold one because it wasn't being played enough, it's a hard decision.
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Post by andyhowell on Jun 29, 2017 22:05:02 GMT
I take your point but ...
I've almost bought a Baritone several times - I played. brooks braritone once that was one the best guitars I have ever played. I just don't think I would play it enough even in a band setting to make the expense sensible.
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Post by ocarolan on Jun 30, 2017 21:25:06 GMT
Not nuts!
You could also get variety by having a guitar tuned up - I always use my terz tuned guitar (ie 3 frets up), when playing with another guitarist, and often use higher capo positions on it too. Gives a nice chiming effect that sits nicely with other instruments and is easy to get a good mix. A baritone could end up in the "muddy" area if you aren't careful, esp if here's a bass in the band. If there isn't a bass then the baritone is a great option.
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Post by andyhowell on Jul 1, 2017 0:24:05 GMT
Not nuts! You could also get variety by having a guitar tuned up - I always use my terz tuned guitar (ie 3 frets up), when playing with another guitarist, and often use higher capo positions on it too. Gives a nice chiming effect that sits nicely with other instruments and is easy to get a good mix. A baritone could end up in the "muddy" area if you aren't careful, esp if here's a bass in the band. If there isn't a bass then the baritone is a great option. Keith Fair points Keith.
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Post by Cams on Jul 1, 2017 12:43:08 GMT
Not nuts! You could also get variety by having a guitar tuned up - I always use my terz tuned guitar (ie 3 frets up), when playing with another guitarist, and often use higher capo positions on it too. Gives a nice chiming effect that sits nicely with other instruments and is easy to get a good mix. A baritone could end up in the "muddy" area if you aren't careful, esp if here's a bass in the band. If there isn't a bass then the baritone is a great option. Keith I had considered the bass angle Keith. We do actually have an upright electric bass in the bluegrass band, but no bass in the ceilidh band. I switched to DADAGAD for accompaniment because it worked better with the clarsach. Baritone might clash with the clarsach. I guess I won't know unless I try it. There are 8-string baritones that look interesting. Might help with the potential muddiness factor.
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Post by malcolm on Jul 1, 2017 13:04:05 GMT
If you get a good baritone it should not sound muddy, but you may have to spend a bit of money.
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Post by K Tresp on Jul 1, 2017 19:55:05 GMT
Definitely recommend a baritone. If you are interested in the Taylor I would definitely take a look at the baritone 8 (two of the courses, 3rd and 4th strings on a 6 string, are doubled and strung as octaves - think 12 string but only on part of it). If it sounds a bit strange it is definitely effective. Depth of the baritone with a little bit of chime and jangle. Taylor 8leoroberts might also comment on baritones......
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Post by leoroberts on Jul 1, 2017 21:23:12 GMT
Indeed - although I can't speak with any authority on the Taylor, nor on any 8 string wotsits, I am the current illegal guardian for a Lowden Bari wot K Tresp hes lended to me. I find the extra scale length to be no issue - and I play it in standard tuning (sorry, Greg). It has a very mellow sound, much different from my other guitars - very warm and, I guess you could say, mellow. But not muddy. Everything still rings clear. I've yet to try and record it with any other instrument - but that is in the pipeline. It is a very different beast and, I'm sure, that in a band situation it would add something extra to the overall sound. It's also a very pleasing instrument to play solo... If you can find one that you like; I wouldn't think twice
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Post by fatfingerjohn on Jul 2, 2017 9:04:28 GMT
I have an almost brand new Walden baritone 6er which I bought 2 years ago which I don't play much. If anyone is interested and coming to Halifax I might sell. Pm me if you are interested or even want to view in notts. ffj
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Post by K Tresp on Jul 2, 2017 10:20:31 GMT
leoroberts - standard tuning dropping the E to B or A?
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Post by leoroberts on Jul 2, 2017 11:09:58 GMT
leoroberts - standard tuning dropping the E to B or A? B-B (I should have said 'standard intervals')
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Post by Cams on Jul 5, 2017 16:57:07 GMT
The GAS attack is beginning to subside so I'm becoming more rational. It's still think a baritone would offer me something worthwhile but I shall hold off until I become as rational as I get and see how I feel. Used 8-strings seem to come up on Reverb, although maybe they don't and it's just coincidence that there are three on there just now!
Thanks everyone for chiming in.
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Post by andyhowell on Jul 12, 2017 16:06:23 GMT
The GAS attack is beginning to subside so I'm becoming more rational. It's still think a baritone would offer me something worthwhile but I shall hold off until I become as rational as I get and see how I feel. Used 8-strings seem to come up on Reverb, although maybe they don't and it's just coincidence that there are three on there just now! Thanks everyone for chiming in. Phew. You can relax a bit! I'm never sure about 8 strings and am not surprised they come up. I can see the point in a baritone though I can more obviously see the point in a fan fret in being a bit of extra tension on the low strings.
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