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Post by newdave on Feb 15, 2023 14:34:43 GMT
Saw one of my GAS guitars - an 00 size Lakewood - for sale in France at a very competitive price. It's in Bayonne, close to the Spanish border so it's not like I can pop across the channel and pick it up. Emailed them and the reply - sorry we no longer export to the UK because of Brexit.
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Post by newdave on Feb 15, 2023 14:39:16 GMT
Mind you, when I consider the tax payable it would probably cover the train fare. I could spend a week down there hiking and have a fine old time.
Maybe if it's still there in the Spring....
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Post by oustudent on Feb 15, 2023 15:51:56 GMT
I enquired with Fellowship of Acoustics many months ago about a trade, they are no longer interested in buying or selling to any UK resident.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 15, 2023 20:22:42 GMT
Saw one of my GAS guitars - an 00 size Lakewood - for sale in France at a very competitive price. It's in Bayonne, close to the Spanish border so it's not like I can pop across the channel and pick it up. Emailed them and the reply - sorry we no longer export to the UK because of Brexit. I’ve spotted a few guitars in the UK that would be tempting, including in the classifieds here, but wouldn’t know the final cost until arrival here in Ireland. Too risky to chance.
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Post by newdave on Feb 15, 2023 21:27:56 GMT
Vinny In the UK it's easy to work out. It's the price paid (including delivery costs) plus 20% VAT and 4% import duty - so just under a quarter on top of the price (but a vendor overseas should remove their own VAT so the price paid should be less than the local price).
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Post by Vinny on Feb 15, 2023 21:42:16 GMT
From what I’ve read, people here have been charged customs duty and vat on new list price, even on second hand items. Carriage fees even taxed. Anecdotal, I know, but enough to put buyers off.
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Post by curmudgeon on Feb 15, 2023 21:54:26 GMT
I enquired with Fellowship of Acoustics many months ago about a trade, they are no longer interested in buying or selling to any UK resident. I find this difficult to believe, whilst Brexit has made matters a pain in La derrier for all, I don't believe that TFOA would refuse to sell to the UK.
They simply remove local VAT from the price, add on shipping costs and you pay excise duty and UK VAT (on he lot) when received in the UK ...just like buying from the USA (as I've done three times).
US dealers are refusing to ship to the UK because the UK now demands that they open a VAT account. You can imagine how the yanks feel about paying taxes to the UK - I mean, there could be a war!
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Post by oustudent on Feb 16, 2023 8:47:43 GMT
I ordered a guitar from TFOA around the time we officially departed Brexit, it took 3 months to get to the UK. It was during the prolonged discussions regarding its whereabouts that they said they were considering not shipping to the UK. Also, With duty, their stock becomes unaffordable to UK buyers.
My wife sent a birthday necklace to her friend in Portugal via Royal Mail in August last year, value £25.00, it arrived back here in December, undelivered with loads of customs stickers on it !
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Post by Phil Taylor on Feb 16, 2023 14:15:56 GMT
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Post by borborygmus on Feb 16, 2023 16:05:05 GMT
Buy British or from British suppliers and manufacturers!! We are certainly blessed with an amazing array of British & Irish luthiers these days, at all levels. Peter
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Post by forestdweller on Feb 16, 2023 17:59:45 GMT
Buy British or from British suppliers and manufacturers!! We are certainly blessed with an amazing array of British & Irish luthiers these days, at all levels. Peter Phil and Bororygmus, we certainly do, but…..I don’t think many parts of your guitars actually originate from the uk. I know for a fact that Brook get a lot of their wood from European suppliers (such as Madinter in Spain) apart of course from the lovely local woods they often use (cherry, yew, walnut amongst others). However, European spruce? Adirondack spruce? Ebony? Then there are the machine heads which probably come from Japan or the USA. Pickups? Apart from headway probably USA or Europe. My point being that there is going to come a time when even our home grown luthiers will not be able to do business with Europe or the USA. There are so many USA firms that are now no longer shipping to the UK. I know I will be accused of being a remoaner (as I have in the past) but there simply hasn’t been any benefits whatsoever for Brexit, and it has actually cost us £29billion in growth. Robbie
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 16, 2023 19:05:23 GMT
Thomann has an arrangement:
Duty We take care of the custom declaration so you will not have to pay any customs fees.
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Post by newdave on Feb 18, 2023 20:28:38 GMT
Thomann has an arrangement: Duty We take care of the custom declaration so you will not have to pay any customs fees.Sadly they don't have the guitar that I saw. I guess if the volume of sales is high enough it's worth making arrangements and Thomann are competitive on price so I'm sure they do a lot of business here. But merchants who only do occasional sales probably find it easier not to bother.
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Post by borborygmus on Feb 19, 2023 12:46:35 GMT
We are certainly blessed with an amazing array of British & Irish luthiers these days, at all levels. Peter Phil and Bororygmus, we certainly do, but…..I don’t think many parts of your guitars actually originate from the uk. I know for a fact that Brook get a lot of their wood from European suppliers (such as Madinter in Spain) apart of course from the lovely local woods they often use (cherry, yew, walnut amongst others). However, European spruce? Adirondack spruce? Ebony? All is not lost! This is a guitar made for me by the marvellous RosieTGC . All English timber: bog oak, red cedar, yew, ash, English oak, elm burr. Robson tuners (now replaced). Yes, pickup is a K&K. Nevertheless, in my real life, we import stuff from the USA, Europe, and Japan every day. The hiccups caused by Brexit have been resolved, with everyone getting used to the paperwork, and now it's a normal process (albeit with added cost). Yes, the 1-2-1, B2C stuff has become tricky, but business transactions endure. Not that I disagree with you about Brexit, but that's a conversation for another time. Peter
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Post by Vinny on Feb 19, 2023 12:54:09 GMT
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