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Post by walrus on Sept 4, 2018 22:30:27 GMT
Brothers and Sisters
I have my guitar, a Takamine TF740FS I have my amp, Schertler Jam 400.
I’d like advice on the bells and whistles please.
Microphones; one for vocals and one for guitar.
Something I can use at home for practice and maybe the odd gig if I can muster the courage.
I was looking at Shure SM58 for vocals and SM57 for guitar, but I am clueless so wide open to suggestions.
Good advice on FX pedals for acoustic guitar Are they needed? Im aiming for a real acoustic sound or as near as possible.
Any and all advice appreciated
Coo Coo Cachoo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 7:56:17 GMT
If your guitar has a pickup does it need a mic? Sm 57 will do the job, but if you want something top notch then I can recommend dpa 4099 clip on mic. As for effects, possibly just some reverb? There are many of those out there, but maybe look at the new lr Baggs pedal? To be honest, you have almost everything you need on that lovely amp.
Robbie
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Post by bleatoid on Sept 5, 2018 9:45:22 GMT
Hi Walrus
As Robbie says, looks like you're good to go with that kit and those mics for practice / gigging.
If you were wanting to do some recording I might suggest adding a condenser mic for the guitar - I get reasonably good results with a modest AKG P170 picked up for forty quid on ebay.
Peter
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Post by walrus on Sept 5, 2018 10:45:54 GMT
The Guitar has a pu, and it’s excellent, there is a aux facility on it too which gives me options. There is a sound board transducer pickup from takamine I have looked at, but I was thinking about a cheap solution to get a more natural fuller acoustic sound, blending the mic with the pickup through the amp.
Im probably looking for problems where there are none, and getting way ahead of myself. I’ll concentrate on the vocals first then worry about the nuances of my acoustic sound. Learning a few complete songs might also help 🤔
The DPA looks very impressive, maybe down the road. Appreciate the advice.
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 5, 2018 15:40:45 GMT
A small condenser mic would be better than the Shure - the Rare many options and I would go for a standard mic rather than a DPA. The new Aston’s look superb, the Rode SC work well as do SE.
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Post by bleatoid on Sept 5, 2018 20:28:33 GMT
Plus - if you just went with a single condenser mic (instead of dynamic x 2 for voice and guitar) you could go all Milk Carton Kids in your new stage persona walrus. Obviously you'll need a hanky and some wobbly gyrations too, but the results are pretty impressive! Peter
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Post by walrus on Sept 5, 2018 20:50:03 GMT
I’m liking the Milk Carton Kids, what a great band name, I’m gonna check these guys out some more, but how will I do those harmonies all by myself??
How does he keep playing the guitar while trying to get the wasp out of his pants, that’s dedication, he doesn’t miss a note.
That siren was in tune for the second song, nice touch.
🙏🏻
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Post by bleatoid on Sept 5, 2018 21:18:52 GMT
Excellent observation walrus. Note to self: Get wasp.
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 5, 2018 22:28:03 GMT
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Post by grayn on Sept 6, 2018 3:58:17 GMT
I like the look of the TC Helicon vocal harmoniser pedals.
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Post by andyhowell on Sept 6, 2018 9:50:50 GMT
I've played with the TC Helicon harmonise a bit and was impressed. I now know a couple of people who use the regularly live. Like everything digital you need to use these sparingly but they can add something really interesting to the sound.
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 6, 2018 10:26:34 GMT
Glyn ( Nuffsed)has one, though I can't remember the make. It does need guitar going through it to give it clues as to key, possible harmonies etc. As such, if the guitar part is sparse here and there, esp if there isn't an obvious bass note, it can get confused! (Quite like me, then.) It worked just fine with strummage, but fingerpicking could occasionally catch it out. Which model is your Glynboy? Keith
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Post by scorpiodog on Sept 6, 2018 10:33:43 GMT
Which model is your Glynboy?Keith I don't have a Glynboy, but I didn't realise yours was a model. Explains the shirts. Or are you using him in the railway layout?
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 6, 2018 10:57:46 GMT
Which model is your Glynboy?Keith I don't have a Glynboy, but I didn't realise yours was a model. Explains the shirts. Or are you using him in the railway layout? i'll not correct my error as it'd spoil your joke! As for the railway layout, well, he isn't very tall..... Keith
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Post by Vinny on Sept 6, 2018 16:22:24 GMT
I have a T.C. Helicon Harmony Singer. Great bit of kit when used sparingly. It analyses your guitar chord and the note you're singing to produce harmony, and harmony type and volume can be adjusted. Keith is spot on re sparse notes - if you play only a bass/root note, for instance, it can't distinguish whether it's major or minor. Also, harmonising bum vocal notes can be interesting! Great for Crosby, Stills and Nash songs though. (Nash must have had seriously tight trousers.)
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