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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 15, 2022 20:09:27 GMT
He went for an Eastman E20M - solid Cedar top and solid Sapele b/s. 44.5mm nut, 63.2cm scale-length. Seems impressive on paper, I'll let you know how it plays later this week. Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 15, 2022 16:27:11 GMT
So, Hobgoblin's spec description was not accurate: the guitar is 14 frets, not short scale and not 1 7/8" nut, it is 1 11/16" - so they have refunded... back to square one.
Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 14, 2022 17:30:47 GMT
He went for this in the end from Hobgoblin, seems good value, all solid woods and wide nut... sadly not a 12 fretter as stated in the description:
Thanks for your help Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 14, 2022 10:06:37 GMT
It's sold, maybe someone on here papadonJonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 12, 2022 23:46:03 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions - the Blueridge may be a good fit.
Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 12, 2022 12:20:04 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions - any other possibilities?
He's thinking 12 frets to the body too.
Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 8, 2022 8:00:18 GMT
Thanks for your suggestions, I'll keep you posted.
Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Feb 7, 2022 20:08:46 GMT
Hi - a student wants to buy an acoustic guitar, body size not important, but it must have a nut width of 45mm or wider. Ideally solid woods. He's looking at spending under £500.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Jan 1, 2022 13:29:01 GMT
Happy New Year everyone - I'm looking forward to more music making this year.
Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Dec 22, 2021 23:15:58 GMT
So shouldn't there be a price reduction due to the cutaway? I think you probably get the bit he cuts out to use as a coaster I know minorkey's comment was facetious, but interesting - the Somogyi concept of bracing means that the soundboard at the fingerboard is dead and not responsive at all, so a cutaway makes no difference to the sound. I discussed this at length with Jason, he said that the only difference would be the air volume of the body. The soundboards of Martins in that area are responsive and play some role in the sound of the guitar, so a cutaway would have an impact. I would absolutely hope that the owner has the scraps - bloody expensive coaster though. Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Dec 22, 2021 23:04:32 GMT
Is the difference that you are hearing due solely to the laminate back and sides? Jonny Forget it Johnny. I've got too much self-respect for this nonsense. You crack on. That's good (that you have self respect), but a shame also (that you are off) - this is a great discussion and I am genuinely interested in other opinions. This thread is really about the upcharge for the 'Tree' back and sides, so a relevant question and why luthier guitars are more expensive than factory guitars. Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Dec 22, 2021 22:29:28 GMT
...it would be nice to hear a factory built guitar with solid back and sides against the luthier guitar. Is the difference that you are hearing due solely to the laminate back and sides? Jonny
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Post by jonnymosco on Dec 22, 2021 9:36:47 GMT
An important issue is that the guitar has a history as a folk instrument (due to accessibility and versatility) and it has therefore been produced for the masses - just one reason many are shocked when some makers charge a lot for them. (It is a victim of its own success which explains why Segovia took it upon himself to elevate its status, or to inadvertently reveal his prejudice against the folk tradition of the Roma of Spain, flamenco... but that's for another thread.) My son has studied the bassoon at school, as a pianist he had to learn an orchestral instrument. To buy even the most basic bassoon would be 3k, he was lent one in the end by a very generous benefactor on the condition we insure it for 15k... this is common in the classical world, pro violinists in particular cannot afford to own their instruments as they can cost hundreds of thousands. As guitarists we are fortunate that we can buy something playable with ok intonation and half-decent tone for a few hundred quid, but also should be pleased that some luthiers have spent their whole lives stretching the tonal spectrum of the guitar to create phenomenal instruments which further the possibilities for the musician and music. Agreed, but I suspect that if bassoons were being played in the same numbers as guitars someone would be banging out serviceable starter instruments for a few hundred quid a pop. What a different world that would be and not one I'd like to inhabit!
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Post by jonnymosco on Dec 21, 2021 23:50:37 GMT
An important issue is that the guitar has a history as a folk instrument (due to accessibility and versatility) and it has therefore been produced for the masses - just one reason many are shocked when some makers charge a lot for them. (It is a victim of its own success which explains why Segovia took it upon himself to elevate its status, or to inadvertently reveal his prejudice against the folk tradition of the Roma of Spain, flamenco... but that's for another thread.)
My son has studied the bassoon at school, as a pianist he had to learn an orchestral instrument. To buy even the most basic bassoon would be 3k, he was lent one in the end by a very generous benefactor on the condition we insure it for 15k... this is common in the classical world, pro violinists in particular cannot afford to own their instruments as they can cost hundreds of thousands.
As guitarists we are fortunate that we can buy something playable with ok intonation and half-decent tone for a few hundred quid, but also should be pleased that some luthiers have spent their whole lives stretching the tonal spectrum of the guitar to create phenomenal instruments which further the possibilities for the musician and music.
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Post by jonnymosco on Dec 21, 2021 10:35:37 GMT
Sorry, deleted my post, thought better of it. I should have learnt from past mistakes not to get drawn into these things. At the end of the day it's your money!!!!! I enjoyed your post, honest and shows that the 'names' out there can charge more despite the merits of individual guitars. Here's some pricing info from Kim Walker: Why are my prices not locked? With a backorder list of approximately 7-8 years, I am not comfortable with projecting the future value/prices of my guitars. The prices at the left are the prices that I would charge had you ordered a guitar in the past without a locked price. These are basically reference prices. I find pricing to be a tough assignment. What I have found by tracking the resale of my guitars (in mint condition) over the last 40 years is that they have typically sold for more than my current list price, often for substantially more than their original selling price.The prices that I have charged for my instruments have increased by approximately 10% annually, on average, for the last 25 years. Though, the price increases between 2007 and 2012 averaged 5%. Style A Special $45,000… includes AAA Brazilian rosewood, master grade European spruce, and a Hoffee carbon fiber case. Style A Deluxe $45,000… includes AAA Brazilian rosewood, master grade European spruce, and a Hoffee carbon fiber case. Style B Special $42,000… includes AAA Brazilian rosewood, master grade European spruce, and a Hoffee carbon fiber case. Style B Deluxe $42,000… includes AAA Brazilian rosewood, master grade European spruce, and a Hoffee carbon fiber case.
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