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Post by nkforster on Apr 19, 2020 21:10:00 GMT
Hope you're all safe and well folks. Strange times. We've got off pretty lightly virus wise here in QLD, for now. Time will tell. Binding! You know for the last 30 years or so I’ve wrestled on a frequent basis with a bottle of titebond glue and roll of masking tape when binding guitars. Usually, more tape and glue ends up on me than the guitar, but this week I tried a different method. The “superglue” method. Wow. Wish I’d done it years ago. Thank you YouTube. First off, you seal up the soundboard with shellac to prevent any superglue staining it. Then use the Stewmac binding tape. It is the best stuff I ‘ve ever used for the job. Highly recommended. Strong, flexible, with just enough “give” to pull the binding into the routed groove. You tape the binding in place first (using a little titebond in the joins and mitres) then “wick” thin superglue in between the tape, the binding and the guitar body. The beauty is you don’t apply any glue until you’ve checked the fit is perfect. Then you apply the glue. Just a few seconds later, it is done. Ready to scrape. If you’re a maker – and you’ve never thought about trying this method, give it a try. Do it! I used the “Hot stuff” red superglue. No accelerator. The process was actually pleasant, and binding rarely is. And the results, well, just superb. Here is a Bubinga Model S-SS and a ziricote tenor guitar (T-SK) both with torrefied soundboards. The tenor has sitka, the 6 string, torrefied Adirondack spruce. Both gorgeous looking guitars. So you can teach a middle-aged dog the occasional new trick…      Nigel www.nkforsterguitars.com/instruments/ |
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Post by nkforster on Apr 21, 2020 7:46:37 GMT
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Post by lars on Apr 23, 2020 5:08:55 GMT
I'm just through a dreadful binding experience. So I ordered binding tape and super glue yesterday (together with lots of other things) at the StewMac department at Madinter. Only problem is that they only sell the orange version of binding tape, which is mainly for plastic binding. Which one did you use?
Ps/ I love your pop rivet dots!
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Post by nkforster on Apr 24, 2020 6:18:32 GMT
I'm just through a dreadful binding experience. So I ordered binding tape and super glue yesterday (together with lots of other things) at the StewMac department at Madinter. Only problem is that they only sell the orange version of binding tape, which is mainly for plastic binding. Which one did you use? Ps/ I love your pop rivet dots! the brown... |
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Post by nkforster on Apr 24, 2020 6:20:10 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Apr 24, 2020 10:40:55 GMT
Beautiful craftmanship nkforster As always. "Binding a Few Bodies" as thread title frightened me a little though. Was afraid the follow up would be "Disposing of Said Bodies." |
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Post by colins on Apr 24, 2020 16:18:19 GMT
Hope you're all safe and well folks. Strange times. We've got off pretty lightly virus wise here in QLD, for now. Time will tell. Binding! You know for the last 30 years or so I’ve wrestled on a frequent basis with a bottle of titebond glue and roll of masking tape when binding guitars. Usually, more tape and glue ends up on me than the guitar, but this week I tried a different method. The “superglue” method. Wow. Wish I’d done it years ago. Thank you YouTube. First off, you seal up the soundboard with shellac to prevent any superglue staining it. Then use the Stewmac binding tape. It is the best stuff I ‘ve ever used for the job. Highly recommended. Strong, flexible, with just enough “give” to pull the binding into the routed groove. You tape the binding in place first (using a little titebond in the joins and mitres) then “wick” thin superglue in between the tape, the binding and the guitar body. The beauty is you don’t apply any glue until you’ve checked the fit is perfect. Then you apply the glue. Just a few seconds later, it is done. Ready to scrape. If you’re a maker – and you’ve never thought about trying this method, give it a try. Do it! I used the “Hot stuff” red superglue. No accelerator. The process was actually pleasant, and binding rarely is. And the results, well, just superb. Here is a Bubinga Model S-SS and a ziricote tenor guitar (T-SK) both with torrefied soundboards. The tenor has sitka, the 6 string, torrefied Adirondack spruce. Both gorgeous looking guitars. So you can teach a middle-aged dog the occasional new trick… Nigel www.nkforsterguitars.com/instruments/I remember this was a popular method of binding guitars back in the late 90s and was often discussed on the OLF forum, I did try it a couple of times but went back to cutting the channel, testing the fit, making any necessary adjustments and then using fish glue or HHG. It's not that it didn't work perfectly well as long as you sealed the channels with shellac, but I just don't really like using CA glues on guitars, just fish and HHG, a personal thing really. |
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Post by nkforster on Apr 25, 2020 2:09:10 GMT
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Post by nkforster on Apr 27, 2020 9:55:17 GMT
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Post by andy3sheds on Apr 28, 2020 0:07:55 GMT
Not keen on the end pin
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Post by colins on Apr 28, 2020 9:25:33 GMT
I'm just through a dreadful binding experience. So I ordered binding tape and super glue yesterday (together with lots of other things) at the StewMac department at Madinter. Only problem is that they only sell the orange version of binding tape, which is mainly for plastic binding. Which one did you use? Ps/ I love your pop rivet dots! Lars I used the Stew Mac orange tape on a number of binding jobs, works just fine and a little less prone to tearing when pressured than the traditional brown tape. Still loved the brown. I've also used the fibre reinforced clear packing tape, that also works really well. |
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Post by lars on Apr 28, 2020 20:40:11 GMT
I'm just through a dreadful binding experience. So I ordered binding tape and super glue yesterday (together with lots of other things) at the StewMac department at Madinter. Only problem is that they only sell the orange version of binding tape, which is mainly for plastic binding. Which one did you use? Ps/ I love your pop rivet dots! Lars I used the Stew Mac orange tape on a number of binding jobs, works just fine and a little less prone to tearing when pressured than the traditional brown tape. Still loved the brown. I've also used the fibre reinforced clear packing tape, that also works really well. Thanks, Colin. It sounds reassuring! |
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Post by lars on Apr 28, 2020 20:43:05 GMT
Nigel, I've really appreciated to read all your posts, both here and at your blog!
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Post by nkforster on Jul 9, 2020 3:31:26 GMT
 So, the finishing is done and the satin nitro is cured. THe next step is to glue on the bridge and neck:  THen string her up and ignore her for a couple of weeks.  After that its time to do the final setup - frets, acrion, relief, intonation, pickup and pickguard. Now she's off to Jim in New South Wales. Expect to see this guitar bouzouki on the next Midnight Oil tour...  Nigel www.nkforsterguitars.com |
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Jo whoever he is.
