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Post by ocarolan on Jul 10, 2020 16:16:28 GMT
Thanks chaps for your encouragement! You may regret it though....
I did get one of those Blackstar Fly thingies and it works well for my purposes and the delay does help the sound of the guitar quite a bit. Deffo won't be amassing a collection pedals! Ordered some slightly heavier strings which are now on their way.
Have posted a choon with some restrained Teletwiddles in the Plucky duck. Listen at your peril.
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Post by frankieabbott on Jul 10, 2020 16:16:59 GMT
Nice purchase Mr ocarolan. Bob Dylan went to a leccie so why not us. I've got Ernie Ball 'Not even slinky' 12-56 on mine but tuned down a tone or sometimes 3 semitones depending on what whim takes me. A bit beefier under the fingers than nines or tens.....but with a similar tension of 10s with the downtuning. Anyway...have fun with it.
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Post by francis on Aug 3, 2020 15:01:26 GMT
Is the link down - can't get a connection?
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Post by ocarolan on Aug 3, 2020 22:04:50 GMT
Is the link down - can't get a connection? Works for me Francis. if it still doesn't work when next you try it I'll email you a link. But actually you aren't missing much! Better sounds on the track I posted in the PD recently. Keith
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Post by minorkey on Sept 3, 2020 21:33:34 GMT
Nice, though I've always thought them ugly compared to strats. And surely they sound the same, depending on pickup choice etc?
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Post by Akquarius on Sept 5, 2020 18:14:39 GMT
Nice, though I've always thought them ugly compared to strats. And surely they sound the same, depending on pickup choice etc? No. Not at all. A Tele is a Tele. The sound is unique.
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Post by minorkey on Sept 5, 2020 18:33:42 GMT
Nice, though I've always thought them ugly compared to strats. And surely they sound the same, depending on pickup choice etc? No. Not at all. A Tele is a Tele. The sound is unique. I don't see how. Its an electric guitar. The wood/plastic/metal of the body has little or no influence on the sound .
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Post by Onechordtrick on Sept 5, 2020 21:39:30 GMT
No. Not at all. A Tele is a Tele. The sound is unique. I don't see how. Its an electric guitar. The wood/plastic/metal of the body has little or no influence on the sound . I’m with Akquarius on this Lots of factors come into play; single coil vs, humbucker pickups, fixed vs. floating bridge, wood density, body shape. It’s a bit like saying an acoustic guitar is just a wooden box. There’s much more scope for variance of tone in an acoustic but an electric guitar is much more than just a block of wood.
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 5, 2020 22:17:47 GMT
Agree with Akquarius and Onechordtrick, although my experience of electrics is limited to a couple of cheap generic types many years ago, plus a really good JV Strat and my current cheap Tele. The Strat was, arguably the most inherently versatile and had sexy looks, but the Tele still has a wide range of tones and has much basic charm. Not at all ugly to my eyes, more jolie laide as the French would say. (Pretentious? Moi??!!) By the way, I have pimped up the Tele with a fake tortie 3-ply pickguard which I think looks loads better than the original single ply white one. And obviously it sounds so much better now. Keith
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Post by minorkey on Sept 6, 2020 11:47:18 GMT
That's the thing, the tone is in the pickups, pedals and amp settings.
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Post by ocarolan on Sept 6, 2020 12:33:36 GMT
...and hardtail or trem, strings/gauges/length, pick/no pick/place on string where plucked, right hand technique, left hand techinique...etc etc.
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Post by Akquarius on Sept 6, 2020 14:11:51 GMT
...not to mention shape and thickness of the body and the neck. If what you say, Larry, was true, then you'd be able to copy the sound of a Les Paul with a Strat by using an identical set of pickups. Good luck trying.
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Post by minorkey on Sept 6, 2020 14:12:32 GMT
...and hardtail or trem, strings/gauges/length, pick/no pick/place on string where plucked, right hand technique, left hand techinique...etc etc. Keith Yes of course (applies to acoustic too), but I need to be convinced that different electric guitars with the same set up would sound different. Why does a les paul sound different to a strat beyond pick up choice? Can you put P90s in a strat? Surely then it would sound like a les paul...I don't know, I just need to understand the differences
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Post by Akquarius on Sept 6, 2020 15:41:29 GMT
okay, lets try the experiment. To make a Strat sound nearly (yes, not exactly, but nearly)as a Les Paul you would need to: a) replace the single coils with humbuckers; b) make sure your Strat has a rosewood fingerboard (according to quite a few people the more dense rosewood produces a slightly fatter sound); c) make sure that your Strat has a hard tail bridge; What you can't change though is the setting of the neck. The bolt-on neck of a Strat produces a slightly different sound than the set neck of a Les Paul. And, of course, you would have to find a Strat made of mahogany. We'll drop the wiring, as my technical know how is not good enough to explain how the wiring must be altered. None of these specs alone are really significant (except the wiring), but all together they change the sound significantly.
Now with a Tele and a Strat it would be a little easier to get a sound close to the other. Again, I'm skipping the part of the wiring, allthough it does have a big influence on the sound. You would need a 3rd pickup of course. It may help if your Tele is not the square chunk of wood (no disrespect here, I find the balance of a Tele much more to my liking than that of a Strat) but a shaped version closer to the body of a Strat. With that, you will probably get close to the sound of a Strat.
I believe that the character of an electric guitar is built on all these a.m. specs. If you want the sound of a Tele, get a Tele. If you want a sound that is comparable to a Tele, get any guitar body and copy the character of a Tele as good as you can.
And yes, you can put p90s on a Strat body. What you get is a Strat with P90s, but not a Les Paul.
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Post by minorkey on Sept 6, 2020 20:30:46 GMT
Hmm I remain skeptical. Fingerboard wood, how on earth can that effect tone...
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