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Post by philw on Jul 13, 2013 12:17:24 GMT
Hey team - I am trying to sell my previous acoustic, a Vintage V800N since I boight my new Faith I know its a very entry level guitar compared to whats kicking about on here and the likes, but nonetheless its a nice sounding guitar for the money I think. I was due to meet a chap tomorrow at the motorway services but he has now pulled out saying his guitar guru mate said to leave it alone, as the guitar has 'Runout'? which apparently effects the strength of the top and tone of the guitar? It looks worse in the pic with the light shining on it, but you can see in the pic there is a 2-tone look to the top of the guitar? Any thoughts as I have no idea whether this is true or not? Heres the link I have listed on fleabay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111114301468?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649cheers guys
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Post by davewhite on Jul 13, 2013 12:48:19 GMT
Phil, Pretty much all spruce guitar tops have run-out the question is what degree of run out and does it matter. If you could only make guitars with spruce that had almost zero runout there wouldn't be many to go around. Impact on tone - debatable and some tops with lots of run out could sound brilliant. Structural issues - yes but the runout needs to be very extreme indeed. It's runout that causes curl and flame patterns in wood and people rave about guitars with Flamed/curly Redwood tops. For an explanation of runout ( a bit techy) see this ANZLF thread. If you scroll down to the picture of wood with different degrees of runout you'll see that it's not a big deal on your Vintage. How many guitars has this guitar guru mate made and how many exploding/imploding runout guitar tops has he seen? And how do you get to be a "guitar guru" ? I'd like to add that to "Luthier" on my profile You can't believe everything you read on the internet . . . err hang on a minute
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Post by philw on Jul 13, 2013 12:56:23 GMT
Hi Dave thanks for that - its def put the buyer off that's for sure, who did originally like it as it added to the 'character' of the guitar (his words not mine)- ah well so it goes I guess.....
May I just ask another thing off topic to this really - The Paco Castillo 204 I will soon be getting, I have the choice of either Cedar or Spruce. Is one better than the other or is there much difference to the sound/tone of the guitar? Its been suggested I get Cedar? regards Phil
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Post by davewhite on Jul 13, 2013 13:00:56 GMT
Phil,
There are going to be sound differences between Spruce and Cedar topped instruments but they can be subtle. Best thing to do is to play a number of each and buy the one whose sound/playability appeals to you the most.
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Post by philw on Jul 13, 2013 13:10:18 GMT
thanks Dave - I am ordering the guitar on Monday but I cant get there to try them out, London is a tad too far to go at present......I'll go with the Cedar top, cheers pal Phil
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