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Post by stain on Aug 15, 2023 20:57:44 GMT
Hi folks
I'm sure there're a lot of opinions on these. I'm not after those. I'm sure I read about an alternative product that was frequency specific but worked on a similar principle ie vibrated the top via the strings to apparently age a guitars sound. Almost like you could say my B string is a bit weak, focus on that. It all sounds like its probably bollocks to me as until there's a double blind trial that attempts to remove bias (ie I paid a lot so it must work) I'll be incredibly sceptical.
However, I digress. Does anyone know of an alternative? And I'm not talking about the cheap Chinese rip offs for £15 on eBay. Nor speakers. Nor just playing the damn thing.
Cheers
Mike
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Post by Martin on Aug 15, 2023 21:20:02 GMT
Hi Mike,
I’m a sucker for ‘too good to be true’ gadgets, and after almost a year of deliberating, I just got a hold of the Tone Traveler by Dr Herringbone (surely a real doctor).
It’s a speaker and tablet that vibrates the strings at the correct frequency and you can focus on one or more strings.
Only had it a week, so no opinions from me yet, but it’s a nicely made and presented bit of kit.
Martin
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Post by stain on Aug 16, 2023 6:37:55 GMT
That’s the one I was thinking about! But had forgotten. Thanks.
Seems we may both be in the sucker camp…..
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Post by colins on Aug 16, 2023 7:39:03 GMT
Did someone mention Snake Oil?
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Post by Onechordtrick on Aug 16, 2023 12:06:44 GMT
Did someone mention Snake Oil? Isn't that the stuff you rub into the guitar and it inhales the tone? Do you know where I can get some?  |
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Post by brianr2 on Aug 16, 2023 15:30:40 GMT
Did someone mention Snake Oil? There seems to be a misspelling. As Martin will know best of all, being somewhat Scottish, what you meant was “S’nae Coil”, which of course is describes a sound device that is unlike a speaker element and which presumably may intone tone. |
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Post by Martin on Aug 17, 2023 12:06:57 GMT
"somewhat Scottish"?  I like your style  |
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Post by jonnymosco on Aug 18, 2023 15:19:19 GMT
I use thisMany well-known makers I know use them (Tonrites though), but will never admit to it. |
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Post by Onechordtrick on Apr 18, 2024 5:37:55 GMT
Hi folks I'm sure there're a lot of opinions on these. I'm not after those. I'm sure I read about an alternative product that was frequency specific but worked on a similar principle ie vibrated the top via the strings to apparently age a guitars sound. Almost like you could say my B string is a bit weak, focus on that. It all sounds like its probably bollocks to me as until there's a double blind trial that attempts to remove bias (ie I paid a lot so it must work) I'll be incredibly sceptical. However, I digress. Does anyone know of an alternative? And I'm not talking about the cheap Chinese rip offs for £15 on eBay. Nor speakers. Nor just playing the damn thing. Cheers Mike I found one of the aforementioned £15 rip offs on AliExpress and decided to try it out. Took about a week to arrive and is basically a vibrating plastic box with a dial to control the intensity. I left it on for most of the day yesterday and I think I can hear a difference. It may be an “Emperor’s new clothes” syndrome but as it only cost £15 I don’t think I need that much self justification. Had I shelled out on a genuine ToneRite I’d have definitely heard a difference. I didn’t do a “before” recording to compare properly but feel the tone is richer with more complex overtones. So if you’re curious I’d give one of the cheap ones a go. |
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Post by colins on Apr 18, 2024 8:53:03 GMT
I know that back in the day, before Tonrites or their like were manufactured people would sit an aquarium pump on the top and leave it running for days. Supposedly the vibrations would turn a piece of old cardboard into a Torres.
Other versions of vibrating gizmos are available!
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Post by martinrowe on Apr 18, 2024 9:49:35 GMT
That's a bit rough on the fish, isn't it?
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Post by ocarolan on Apr 18, 2024 10:46:35 GMT
Those who favour putting a guitar by a loudspeaker might like to consider playing the following tracks on their sound system -
Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
Shake, rattle and roll - probably the Elvis version
Bend me, shape me - Amen Corner
Shakin' all over - Johnny Kidd and the Pirates
I can feel it coming in the air tonight - Phil Collins
Vibrations Pt1 & Pt 2 - Black Eyed Peas
Hippy hippy shake - Swingin' Blue Jeans
And, sadly, anything by Shakin' Stevens
Hope this is helpful.
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Post by Martin on Apr 18, 2024 16:20:07 GMT
I'm still using my 'snake oil', and rather think it does do something beneficial.
In fact I've got it on right now, and it's buzzing away quietly. It can be dangerous for your health, it has to be said. I left it on loud the other night and my wife gently suggested that I "turn that f*****g thing off", which I took as a hint that she didn't enjoy the sound.
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Post by malcolm on Apr 19, 2024 9:13:36 GMT
I borrowed a Tonerite and tried it for three days each on two very different guitars, a brand new luthier built 00 and a 43 year old Fylde. I didn't notice any difference at all after the "treatment".
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Post by Onechordtrick on May 11, 2024 7:20:12 GMT
Here’s an attempt to be a little more scientific although frankly the previous attempt couldn’t have been any less scientific. I also happened to read a proper scientific paper yesterday… EquipmentFurch Yellow OM spruce/rosewood Ali Express ToneRite knockoff AKG P170 and Rode M3 into GarageBand via Scarlett 212 MethodRecord guitar Attach ToneRite, leave on until it goes flat, recharge then on until bed time plus an hour in the morning. About 11 hours in total Record guitar again ResultsHere’s the before and after results app.box.com/s/9vvlki00vqs01aljmhn2k4vqlnmy3qmh |
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