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Post by guitarsluthier on May 6, 2024 17:54:48 GMT
I leave you here a video where you can hear what a guitar with a side sound hole sounds like. It is an accessory that is not yet widespread but that I consider to be a great success. Whenever I see how someone reacts when they play a guitar with a side soundhole for the first time, I confirm this. At approximately the 50th second, the mouth on the side opens and you can see the difference. It is always better to listen to it with good speakers or good headphones. I hope you like it. Emmanuel Carlucci
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Post by leoroberts on May 6, 2024 19:10:36 GMT
Thanks, Emmanuel. Most of my 'luthier built' instruments have soundports. Most of my 'factory built' instruments don't. I'm sure there's something to be read into that, but I'm buggered if I know what it is!  |
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Post by guitarsluthier on May 7, 2024 9:21:57 GMT
Thanks, Emmanuel. Most of my 'luthier built' instruments have soundports. Most of my 'factory built' instruments don't. I'm sure there's something to be read into that, but I'm buggered if I know what it is! Interesting observation. Thank you very much! |
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Post by ocarolan on May 7, 2024 11:18:56 GMT
soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9369899This might be of interest - some recordings I made of a guitar with soundport made by davewhite some years ago. The recordings were made soundport open and closed from a players perspective with a microphone by my ear and also with port open and closed wih a microphone placed as "audience" out front. I think the differences are noticable, and also visible in the waveforms. My intention at the time was to determine if the sound out front was affected by the soundport, which it didn't seem to be. I was already a convert to the soundport as a player. Keith
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Post by colins on May 7, 2024 13:41:57 GMT
I have built more than 100 steel string guitars dating back to the mid 90s and all have been built with a soundport. A number of the classical guitars that I also made had soundports, but classical players are a bit more traditional. Even I though never put a soundport on any of the lutes that I made! As Leo said soundports have been common among custom guitar makers for decades now, originally designed to be a player's 'monitor', it is now thought that they help the guitar 'breath' better.   |
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Post by guitarsluthier on May 7, 2024 15:25:33 GMT
soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9369899
This might be of interest - some recordings I made of a guitar with soundport made by davewhite some years ago. The recordings were made soundport open and closed from a players perspective with a microphone by my ear and also with port open and closed wih a microphone placed as "audience" out front. I think the differences are noticable, and also visible in the waveforms.
My intention at the time was to determine if the sound out front was affected by the soundport, which it didn't seem to be. I was already a convert to the soundport as a player.
Keith
Thank you very much for the contribution. You play the guitar very well and the recording is very beautiful. With headphones you can hear the differences very well. |
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Post by earthbalm on May 7, 2024 19:13:28 GMT
Great comparisons ocarolan. And, today's second Martin Simpson arrangement. Very nicely played too. |
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Post by andy3sheds on May 8, 2024 10:36:02 GMT
I once told someone that the soundport on my Symonds was so if was busking and it came on to rain I’d have somewhere to stick a brolly they seemed quite happy with the explanation I was being a bit arsey but seriously on a bass rich guitar I’m sure a soundport is an asset
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Post by colins on May 8, 2024 15:14:39 GMT
I once told someone that the soundport on my Symonds was so if was busking and it came on to rain I’d have somewhere to stick a brolly they seemed quite happy with the explanation I was being a bit arsey but seriously on a bass rich guitar I’m sure a soundport is an asset Andy, I wish I had thought of that explanation when I was still building, could have been great marketing patter! Colin |
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Post by juliant on May 9, 2024 19:59:30 GMT
I have built more than 100 steel string guitars dating back to the mid 90s and all have been built with a soundport. A number of the classical guitars that I also made had soundports, but classical players are a bit more traditional. Even I though never put a soundport on any of the lutes that I made! As Leo said soundports have been common among custom guitar makers for decades now, originally designed to be a player's 'monitor', it is now thought that they help the guitar 'breath' better. Given the construction, a sound port on a lute would be a bit of an undertaking! |
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Post by colan on May 13, 2024 8:18:42 GMT
I recently bought a Gibson G-200 . Gibson's 'G' range have sound-ports and - as I've been an acoustic traditionalist since I started playing- I was a tad concerned about splashing out fifteen hundred quid on an online-bought guitar that I might not like . Who wouldn't be ? Anyway, I've , mostly, been lucky buying online and this guitar gave me the opportunity to have a Gibson at a comparatively low cost . I've always wanted a Gibson since my days in Sydney where a player or two who had the dosh took me to the guitar shop to pick out for them what I thought was the best one from the three or four that they had in stock. I could also haggle the price for cash, these boys being cash-loaded as they'd been working out in the mines for months. Anyway, although I was totally happy with the John Bailey that I'd bought from him in London the Gibsons had a different character that I really liked. Skint is skint though. When the G-200 arrived I was unhappy with the action and took it upon myself to sand off a couple of mil. from under the saddle, having bought a couple of spare saddles previously in case I screwed it up . Fortunately , I got it exactly right and the guitar really sang all over the fretboard. It came without a player-port cover though- which I thought was an awful error on the part of Gibson- so I played it for a few weeks with the port open while I tried to source a port cover, eventually finding one from a small online shop in Portugal. During that time I really got used to the sound and I liked it a lot as it sort of ' bonded' me with the insides of the guitar. It smelled nice too By the time the cover arrived I was a player-port fan - and when I fitted it the guitar sounded the same - but softer - which was to be expected, I suppose. So- I haven't taken it out anywhere yet and I'm playing it with the cover on- sometimes with it off- and I really can't say which I prefer. What I can say is that the cover reduces feedback when using an amp and I guess that makes it pretty much essential when gigging. Also- I haven't tried the other three guitars in this range- but if you want that Gibson sound and build-quality in a mid-priced electric-acoustic then the G-200 is a darling. Beautiful to look at too as I've always thought that the Gibson decorations were over-elaborate. Maybe even crass ? |
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Post by Gregg Hermetech on May 14, 2024 12:11:57 GMT
Definitely sounds a bit more open, spacious, and 'reverby' once that port opens. Great stuff.
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