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Post by alanmi on Jan 6, 2014 6:32:55 GMT
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Post by ocarolan on Jan 6, 2014 9:59:16 GMT
Hello alanmi and welcome to the Forum! Keef did play one of those, though I don't know on what recorded tracks. I'm sure it was much like any other solid bodied guitar in that the sound would be more dependent on the rest of the signal chain that the body material. (apols if offence given to electric players - feel free to correct me!) The interesting thing for me at the time was the sliding pickup, though how practical that was in a live situation I'm not sure! Anyway, hope you'll enjoy the Forum - how about a short intro post in the, er, Introductions section?  keith |
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Post by clydeslide on Jan 7, 2014 10:56:03 GMT
Hello alanmi and welcome to the Forum! Keef did play one of those, though I don't know on what recorded tracks. I'm sure it was much like any other solid bodied guitar in that the sound would be more dependent on the rest of the signal chain that the body material. (apols if offence given to electric players - feel free to correct me!) The interesting thing for me at the time was the sliding pickup, though how practical that was in a live situation I'm not sure! Anyway, hope you'll enjoy the Forum - how about a short intro post in the, er, Introductions section? keith Pretty much 100% dependent on everything other than the wood it is made from, just don't try and discuss it on an electric forum. |
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Post by colan on Jan 15, 2014 7:48:11 GMT
Red rag to a bull.  You have to bear in mind that ' the rest of the signal chain ' is under the control of the player who listens to the wood of his guitar without it. Fine point ? Sure, Keith's raison d'etre Never played one therefore couldn't say. Hello, alanmi. Get stuck in. |
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Post by clydeslide on Jan 15, 2014 10:46:45 GMT
I'm not sure I want to have this discussion here...
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Post by sigmadel on Feb 24, 2014 2:43:45 GMT
The Ampeg Dan Armstrong guitars have a bit of a cult following . I know theres a few pro players who have these ,Dave Grohl (foo fighters,Nirvana ) the two pickups have different outputs as one is a bit hotter than the other one so better for more rocky styles . These are pretty damn cool as far as im concerned and originals go for a pretty penny but they have a major downside ...They weigh a ton . Heres a bit of trivia for you though , the first acrylic bodied guitar made was actually a Fender Stratocaster this was part of a limited edition run but never took off in any sort of way .
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Post by the23rdman on Mar 11, 2014 11:37:07 GMT
Hello alanmi and welcome to the Forum! Keef did play one of those, though I don't know on what recorded tracks. I'm sure it was much like any other solid bodied guitar in that the sound would be more dependent on the rest of the signal chain that the body material. (apols if offence given to electric players - feel free to correct me!) The interesting thing for me at the time was the sliding pickup, though how practical that was in a live situation I'm not sure! Anyway, hope you'll enjoy the Forum - how about a short intro post in the, er, Introductions section? keith Pretty much 100% dependent on everything other than the wood it is made from, just don't try and discuss it on an electric forum. My god, that is just utter rubbish. |
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Post by leoroberts on Mar 11, 2014 11:40:01 GMT
I'm no expert ... but I *think* that counts as a correction, as invited by Keith LOL!
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Post by the23rdman on Mar 11, 2014 11:47:16 GMT
How anyone who plays an instrument can even suggest that any part of the instrument contributes nothing to the tone - especially a part as fundamental as the body - genuinely shocks me. They've obviously never put the same hardware in different bodies or swapped a neck out etc. Every part resonates and ever part makes a difference. If it didn't every electric guitar with the same pups and electrics would sound the same. |
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Post by clydeslide on Mar 11, 2014 18:24:49 GMT
How anyone who plays an instrument can even suggest that any part of the instrument contributes nothing to the tone - especially a part as fundamental as the body - genuinely shocks me. They've obviously never put the same hardware in different bodies or swapped a neck out etc. Every part resonates and ever part makes a difference. If it didn't every electric guitar with the same pups and electrics would sound the same. I did say pretty much, and I have done all of those things. There are many things that affect the tone of an electric guitar, the body wood has a tiny effect at best. I've even spoken to someone who made several bodies from woods including many that would probably never be used for a guitar, they all sounded the same. |
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Post by the23rdman on Mar 11, 2014 18:26:17 GMT
How anyone who plays an instrument can even suggest that any part of the instrument contributes nothing to the tone - especially a part as fundamental as the body - genuinely shocks me. They've obviously never put the same hardware in different bodies or swapped a neck out etc. Every part resonates and ever part makes a difference. If it didn't every electric guitar with the same pups and electrics would sound the same. I did say pretty much, and I have done all of those things. There are many things that affect the tone of an electric guitar, the body wood has a tiny effect at best. I've even spoken to someone who made several bodies from woods including many that would probably never be used for a guitar, they all sounded the same. Probably best to leave it there then because the twain will never meet. |
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Post by clydeslide on Mar 11, 2014 18:43:45 GMT
That's pretty my feelings too |
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Post by the23rdman on Mar 11, 2014 18:48:35 GMT
Ah, a forum where "things" do not need to escalate. |
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Post by colan on Mar 12, 2014 8:30:12 GMT
ocarolan;
Yes, with the emphasis upon 'more' I don't think that there's any case for an argument that the quality of the guitar's materials cannot be very easily swamped by what's done to its output. My stand is that it doesn't have to be so and that the character of the electric instrument becomes predominant in the hands of a sensitive player.
On the other hand , sentencing a good guitar to death in ' Old Sparky ' ain't uncommon.
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Post by pnut on Mar 22, 2014 21:21:15 GMT
I have to say agree with colan wholeheartedly, I have a les Paul bought second hand from a retired session musician, and a strat bought second hand from a teacher who used to teach jazz, both hand picked the instruments I bought from them from numerous examples in shops, even played "acoustically" these things sing compared to what you would hear in your average std les Paul or strat in a shop. Yes you could disguise this with loads of electric effects and and distortion but played thro a good valve amp clean or just breaking up the difference is clear, as is the bell like tone and sustain etc ( at the risk of going all Spinal Tap!!)
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You have to bear in mind that ' the rest of the signal chain ' is under the control of the player who listens to the wood of his guitar without it. Fine point ? Sure, Keith's raison d'etre
Jo whoever he is.
