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Post by earwighoney on May 11, 2015 15:39:12 GMT
I know Torres used silver frets on his exhibition guitar FE08, but using gold frets seems to be a bit extravagant, I would think they'll wear pretty quickly as well, hold on maybe they are just 9ct. Yes that'll be it. Colin EVO Gold Frets aren't made from Gold, they are made from a Copper Alloy. They are supposed to wear a lot less than Nickel Silver frets but more than Stainless Steel. |
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Post by colins on May 11, 2015 15:43:39 GMT
I know Torres used silver frets on his exhibition guitar FE08, but using gold frets seems to be a bit extravagant, I would think they'll wear pretty quickly as well, hold on maybe they are just 9ct. Yes that'll be it. Colin EVO Gold Frets aren't made from Gold, they are made from a Copper Alloy. They are supposed to wear a lot less than Nickel Silver frets but more than Stainless Steel. Err, yes I know, I have a coil of it in my stock. Colin |
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Post by earwighoney on May 11, 2015 15:53:08 GMT
EVO Gold Frets aren't made from Gold, they are made from a Copper Alloy. They are supposed to wear a lot less than Nickel Silver frets but more than Stainless Steel. Err, yes I know, I have a coil of it in my stock. Colin As soon as I hit 'Create Post' I was aware of that. Monday has hit me harder than usual it seems :/ Sorry! |
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Post by leoroberts on May 27, 2015 8:50:39 GMT
Bit more work on Atilla/Emily (still undecided, need to wait 'til I've played him/her!) The sapele heel cap has been glued on, routed for the bindings, bindings fitted and then scraped and sanded flush.  The Macassar Ebony bridge blank has the underside matched to the top curvature.  Back and sides scraped and sanded down in the Troji ready for some pore-filling  and then it's, ermmm, pore-filling time   |
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Post by leoroberts on Jun 16, 2015 17:47:51 GMT
Not quite finished yet - a few little jobs to be done but davewhite has sent me this to give me an idea of how s/he'll look when completed There was also a sound file - but Dave had better post that if he wants. Suffice to say, it's a marvellous sound Attachments:
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Post by davewhite on Jun 16, 2015 18:00:20 GMT
Happy to post the sound-clip - suffice it to say I'm very pleased. Here's how I explained it to Leo: "I've been working on Joni's "Both Sides Now" for the Folk club on Wednesday night on my ATM in Bb-Bb "DADGAD" tuning so tried it out on yours in C-C (CGCFGC). You'll probably play ATM most in DGCFAD tuning (standard tuning one step down) so this is in the tonal range. It was recorded straight into my Zoom H4n with guitar and voice into the same stereo channel using the same microphones so the microphones were aimed up for me to sing into rather than just above the soundhole where I'd point it for just recording the guitar." "Both Sides Now" |
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Post by marcus on Jun 16, 2015 22:59:08 GMT
Looks and sounds great Leo and Dave. I really like the look of the tailpiece. I'm used to seeing these on jazz guitars not acoustics. Was there a particular reason you went with one on this guitar and does it have much impact on tone?
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Post by leoroberts on Jun 17, 2015 7:08:57 GMT
I went for it coz Dave suggested it... As for impact on tone well that's for davewhite to answer  |
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Post by davewhite on Jun 17, 2015 8:49:42 GMT
Looks and sounds great Leo and Dave. I really like the look of the tailpiece. I'm used to seeing these on jazz guitars not acoustics. Was there a particular reason you went with one on this guitar and does it have much impact on tone? All the best, marcus Marcus, Thanks. Although I use and play a lot of multi-coursed instruments 12 strings have never really appealed to me apart from the Leadbelly style Stellas tuned really low, some of which had tailpieces. Also perversely I never liked floating bridge bouzouki type instruments as they sounded too "nasal" to me and I always preferred fixed bridges. Having been "persuaded" into making a mandolin I made the interesting discovery that the "nasal" sound has more to do with the overall design of the instrument than with the floating bridge and became a fan. I've also learned that instruments with courses of paired strings don't need the same string tension as singles for the string feel and intonation as the pairs seem to support one another, and the lower tension leads to a much more responsive instrument. Also the forces on the top from a floating bridge with tailpiece compared with a pinned bridge are very different and intuitively seem to me more suited to a 12 string arrangement. It also allows for more flexibility of design with scale length and bridge placement. So my 12 string is very much a larger Octave mandolin in a guitar body in its design and bracing rather than a guitar with double the number of strings  The first ATM I made had the long 660mm (26") scale length tuned down C-C and Leo's is a shorter scale version 630mm (24.8") using the same body but with a with cutaway designed for D-D tuning or with lighter strings standard E-E tuning and both have 13 frets clear. It's essentially a 12 string version of my "Samhradh" model but built like an Octave Mandolin  |
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Post by ocarolan on Jun 17, 2015 8:59:32 GMT
Well, whatever it is, it looks and sounds mighty fine! Nice one Dave - I'm sure Leo will be well chuffed!
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Post by andyhowell on Jun 17, 2015 10:07:31 GMT
Well, whatever it is, it looks and sounds mighty fine! Nice one Dave - I'm sure Leo will be well chuffed! Keith I suspect Leo will be running out of wall soon. |
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Post by alexkirtley on Jun 17, 2015 14:58:22 GMT
Bugger, now I want one
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Post by ocarolan on Jun 17, 2015 17:37:07 GMT
... a wall?!
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Post by alexkirtley on Jun 17, 2015 17:49:02 GMT
Hey, some of us have to live under an umbrella you know |
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Post by ocarolan on Jun 17, 2015 18:00:17 GMT
An umbrella? Luxury! We 'ad it tough - when I were a lad we didn't even know what an umbrella was. We 'ad to make do wi' a knotted hanky on us heads. Just the one, shared between Mother, Father and us 13 kids.  Keith |
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