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Post by Martin on May 8, 2015 9:48:53 GMT
Right this could go one of two ways: 1. I end up with a functioning, lovely vintage instrument that gives me years of pleasure 2. More likely, I make a mess of it and am left with bits of firewood and some ripped bellows I have ordered the thumbscrews and inserts, a hand drill and a selection of wood bits. Instead of getting a modern, plasticky hand drill, I went for something a bit more traditional, so I've got a 1942 vintage hand drill coming from some bloke on ebay - hope it still drills straight  I'll post an update on my progress when the goods arrive and I get started - if it goes well, I may even post the photographs... |
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Post by leoroberts on May 8, 2015 10:11:12 GMT
Best of luck, Martin... post photos? We demand soundclips, sir! |
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Post by Martin on May 8, 2015 10:11:55 GMT
Of course, how remiss of me - soundclips of my drilling activity will be forthcoming  |
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Post by missclarktree on May 8, 2015 20:02:44 GMT
Will you be treating it for woodworm first? |
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Post by Martin on May 8, 2015 22:13:56 GMT
Hope not!
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Post by Martin on May 18, 2015 11:39:10 GMT
Got me drill, got me bits - still no screws from the concertina guy!  A few more days and then...  |
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Post by ocarolan on May 18, 2015 12:50:54 GMT
..glad you've got your bits.... pity you can't use them yet.....  Keith |
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Post by Martin on May 21, 2015 16:07:15 GMT
Ok, after a gentle reminder yesterday, the screws came today. I'm not really clued up on this, so I might be wrong but I don't think the inserts came with it. I was about to ask the seller, but thought I'd check here first. If you're around gavdav, maybe I could ask your advice?  |
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Post by davewhite on May 21, 2015 16:15:29 GMT
Martin,
It looks like the threaded inserts are on the screws - they should just screw off (if you see what I mean). You then have to drill the right diameter holes for the threaded inserts to go in - check what size with the supplier. The inserts usually have a recess at the end that takes an Allen key ,for inserting them.
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Post by Martin on May 21, 2015 17:11:31 GMT
Thanks Dave. I thought so. But I don't see any way of getting the inserts into the body of the concertina without drilling a larger hole and gluing them. The ones on the website were slotted to allow them to be screwed in with a bladed screwdriver. www.concertina-spares.com/catalogue7b.htm |
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Post by gavdav on Jun 29, 2015 8:59:39 GMT
Any joy? I'd chase the supplier up and ask if you haven't already?
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Post by Martin on Jun 30, 2015 13:24:24 GMT
I think I'll need to ask as I've no idea how to insert these inserts  |
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Post by gavdav on Jun 30, 2015 14:39:51 GMT
think you're on a fairly firm footing if their own picture has the slotted ones in (that's how mine came)
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Post by mel on Jul 1, 2015 16:29:50 GMT
For a non-slotted insert you need to find a bolt that will screw into the insert and use that to screw it in. It's best practice to put a nut on, incase the insert gets stuck on the bolt (sods law) and also it's required is the bolt is too long. I usually put a washer on to prevent scratching the insert or the job and add a little oil to the threads as well. There's a diagram and instructions half way down on this page, it probably says it better than me: modelenginenews.org/techniques/ti.htmlYou shouldn't cut a much larger hole and rely on glue to hold it in! It'll probably fall out later. It's should be a hole of the right size an rely on the thread to hold it in. Undersizing the hole too much will risk splitting the wood. Hope this helps. Mel. |
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Post by Martin on Aug 13, 2015 14:52:44 GMT
For a non-slotted insert you need to find a bolt that will screw into the insert and use that to screw it in. It's best practice to put a nut on, incase the insert gets stuck on the bolt (sods law) and also it's required is the bolt is too long. I usually put a washer on to prevent scratching the insert or the job and add a little oil to the threads as well. There's a diagram and instructions half way down on this page, it probably says it better than me: modelenginenews.org/techniques/ti.htmlYou shouldn't cut a much larger hole and rely on glue to hold it in! It'll probably fall out later. It's should be a hole of the right size an rely on the thread to hold it in. Undersizing the hole too much will risk splitting the wood. Hope this helps. Mel. , thanks very much for this information. I've been distracted a bit this summer, so haven't got any further with this, but I appreciate the information, and I'll maybe get a chance to look at it this weekend!  |
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