leoroberts
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My main instrument is: probably needing new strings
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Post by leoroberts on Aug 12, 2015 21:15:51 GMT
Ok, it's fairly basic but, hey, it's the lovely Muriel Anderson so deal with it... tunes available at Muriel's website
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Post by vikingblues on Aug 13, 2015 7:49:18 GMT
Thanks for the link Leo. If nothing else iood to be reminded that there's the obvious D major option in DADGAD - might stop me veering to the Dorian all the time (for Dorian think 3rd fret instead of 4th). Mark
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Post by andyhowell on Aug 24, 2015 15:47:12 GMT
If you play in Dropped D occasionally you are nearly there. The problem with DADGAD being a modal/Dorian tunings is that it just sounds wrong when you play standard third shapes on the high strings. Now, this is not a daft thing to do as finding your way around a tuning often started with normal shapes.
The first and second strings (being pitched a tone lower) tend to mean that you use a greater length of the keyboard and this is a good thing to understand immediately.
So, a dropped D G chord might see your fourth finger on the 6th string 5th fret and then the rest of the notes being played on higher frets (if you get what I mean. So, the root is low on the 5th fret but the subsequent fretted notes are above that depending on how many open strings you want to play.
With DADGAD you have to approach the same G chord differently. I often play this with my first finger on the 5th fret — your subsequent fingers are then in a position to find positions BELOW the 5th fret _ exactly the opposite of the Dropped D example.
The subsequent chords you are looking for are usually simply and utilise open strings where you can. You may simply fret one or two strings together with open chords, hinting at third is often all you need to do. For example, playing in G you can fret the standard C shape on strings 5 and 4 and then play with all the others open to see if one of those strings can make up a simple 3 note chord.
The Dorian/modal sound is so dominant that it is difficult to break away from. To do this you will be using a mixture of simple scale runs and hinted chords. And you will be moving up and down the neck on the high strings much more than usual.
I hope to be showing this in the Halifax workshop.
Forget people like Bensusan for this. What we want is the 'people's' DADGAD — which is easy once you get the hang of it :-)
The great thing about DADGAD is that even with simple chord shapes and fingering it sounds complex because of all of the harmonies and overtones! The first thing to understand is not to try and make it too complex. Let the strings ring and give them space.
Playing in D keys and scales is not too difficult once you get over this odd first sound. Remember strings 6,54 and 3 are the same as dropped D. Use regular shapes as a starter and/or simply find one note runs and scales first and then build some simple additional chord notes around that.
Finally, play with other keys — notably G. I saw RobbieJ recently talking about avoiding DADGAD cliches and I think I know what he means (at least I hope I do). You will probably 'get' the cliches early on.
Start playing from a 5th fret G position. G, A, EM are all easy — then try my hinted/stripped down C. Then try a little run but moving down the high strings rather than up.
Hope that makes sense !!!!
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leoroberts
C.O.G.
Posts: 24,549
My main instrument is: probably needing new strings
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Post by leoroberts on Aug 24, 2015 16:08:02 GMT
Finally, play with other keys — notably G. I saw RobbieJ recently talking about avoiding DADGAD cliches and I think I know what he means (at least I hope I do). You will probably 'get' the cliches early on. Damn straight! I avoid cliches like the plague....
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