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Post by Wild Violet on Dec 31, 2015 17:17:29 GMT
My husband plays a bit of mandolin and our recent conversation about the Ashbury mandolins has made him think about buying a nicer instrument.
He likes the look of Eastman mandolins but they are pretty pricey. I will of course steer him to the Ashburys but we were both wondering how would a cheaper Eastman (£7-800) compare to a hand made Moon or Fylde Mandolin (£750). Common sense tells me a hand made British mandolin will be of a higher quality than the Eastman, but what do I know?
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Post by ocarolan on Dec 31, 2015 17:40:49 GMT
...some of the Eastmans I have tried (not recently though) had very narrow nut and string spacings - this may be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what Mr WV likes.
Keith
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Post by Wild Violet on Dec 31, 2015 17:55:38 GMT
Thanks Keith! His current cheapo mando is pretty narrow. I don't think it would be an issue for him but it would for me if I ever tried to confiscate it so well worth thinking about...
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Post by martinrowe on Dec 31, 2015 19:16:31 GMT
After a lot of research, about six months ago, I took a chance and bought the £750 Jimmy Moon mandolin from youtube for £350 - it was new, not a scratch on it. I hadn't tried it first and went on the fact that his reputation for guitars is excellent. I'd recommend one. I was worried that it may have that harshness that mandolins sometimes have but it didn't. I played the E string at the third fret and this wonderful tone came out.
All a matter of taste and the usual recommendation of 'try it first' is the best I've heard - and makes sense.
I got into a conversation with the Scottish mandolinist Dagger Gordon when I was looking to buy his book and he told me a story of having an old Gibson (the holy grail) and of never really bonding with it - even though the reputation was there. He went to the Acoustic Music Company in Brighton and tried their top of the range mandolins - and bought a Collings entry level mandolin (expensive, but not as expensive as some) that he thought was the best one in the shop - even though it was not the most expensive.
I hesitate spending money on musical instruments as the disappointment is great if you make a bad decision - pleased with the Jimmy Moon though.
Hope it helps Martin
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Post by leoroberts on Dec 31, 2015 20:27:20 GMT
What he (by which I mean you) really wants is a davewhite Ceol Binn
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Post by mandovark on Dec 31, 2015 21:11:16 GMT
I haven't played any Eastmans, but I used to see a lot of discussion about them when I was a regular on the Mandolin Cafe forum. General opinion seemed to be that the quality was good for the price. It might be worth keeping in mind that Eastman mandolins tend to be arch tops, in the style of American bluegrass instruments, whereas the British handmade mandos in the same price range are usually (more or less) flat tops. Carved top mandolins tend to be more expensive, which might be why there is a perception that Eastmans are lower quality than similarly-priced hand-made flat tops.
Personally, I'd think of it more in terms of the sound. In my experience, flat tops tend to sound a bit fuller, but often without the bell-like trebles that a good arch top will have. Arch tops will often have a punchier sound (one of the reasons why bluegrass players tend to like them).
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Post by Martin on Dec 31, 2015 21:43:12 GMT
As Simon mentions there, the difference seems to be mainly in style. I have both an Eastman MD305 and a Moon standard.
Both are lovely, but very different. The Eastman is a bluegrass machine, with plenty of bark, quick note decay and huge projection. It cost about £400 new, so a lot less used if you can find one.
The Moon is very nice, but is quieter and more mellow. The Fylde I used to have was even more mellow with tonnes of sustain.
Depends completely on the style of music and what you expect to play with it IMO.
The Eastman holds up well in a session, but the Moon gets a bit lost for example.
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Post by Wild Violet on Jan 1, 2016 10:54:22 GMT
Thanks everyone for the info. He has decided he doesn't want to pay more than £3-400 and does want an arched one for bluegrass. He's ok with the narrow nut so if a used Eastman comes up he may go for it.
I think I'd prefer the Ashbury or used Moon/Fylde for myself, but I'll stick to learning how to play the tenor guitar for now so a mando for me will be quite a ways off.
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Post by vikingblues on Jan 1, 2016 10:58:11 GMT
Thanks Keith! His current cheapo mando is pretty narrow. I don't think it would be an issue for him but it would for me if I ever tried to confiscate it so well worth thinking about... It is probably worth him trying some wider fretboard mandolins even if he is OK with narrower as wider might be even better - there is quite a positive difference in that couple of mm. That's me speaking as someone who conversely likes narrow fretboard guitars. It does seem to be that the higher quality instruments tend to be wider and the cheaper ones narrow ... coincidence? Mark
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Post by Andy P on Jan 1, 2016 12:20:30 GMT
Thanks Keith! His current cheapo mando is pretty narrow. I don't think it would be an issue for him but it would for me if I ever tried to confiscate it so well worth thinking about... It is probably worth him trying some wider fretboard mandolins even if he is OK with narrower as wider might be even better - there is quite a positive difference in that couple of mm. That's me speaking as someone who conversely likes narrow fretboard guitars. It does seem to be that the higher quality instruments tend to be wider and the cheaper ones narrow ... coincidence? Mark I've never understood why a narrower neck should be an advantage on an instrument which by definition has a narrow neck anyway. Does that make sense (I do believe I'm a little hungover )
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