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Post by grayn on Apr 6, 2013 12:26:39 GMT
The EF407 is a “New Yorker” style/shape, electro-acoustic guitar. Unlike most others, of this style/shape, the EF407 is a 14-fretter and it’s body is all Koa, that beautifully grained, dark, Hawaiian wood. Made in Japan, this guitar is part of Takamine’s Pro series and is now discontinued. The beautifully proportioned body is bound in brown, ivory and black “CAB”. I’ve no idea what CAB is and can find nothing about it, on the ‘net. Some witty, guitar forumer suggested “cheap ass binding”. I guess from that, it is some kind of synthetic material. The rosette consists of concentric rings (of more CAB) and acrylic pearl. It’s nice and subtle and goes with the Koa, rather splendidly. The body has a beautiful, gloss finish. The fret board is rosewood, with quartered diamond markers, that have a stylised, floral look. The nut and saddle are bone. The bridge is also rosewood. The neck is mahogany, with a 14th fret, dovetail joint. The heel cap is, yes, more brown CAB. The headstock is slotted, in the conventional fashion, with a nicely grained, rosewood, veneer, to the front. The 3-a-side tuners are gold with plastic pearl-like buttons. Matching the tuners, are gold strap buttons/end-pin. The neck and headstock have a satin finish. For those interested in electronics: The guitar has a built in Takamine Palathetic Pickup and a CT4B Preamp, which has the usual EQ & vol. sliders and a tuner (handy). This is situated on the side shoulder. The pre-amp does nothing to add to the guitars beauty but actually gets a very decent sound, through an amp. For those interested in dimensions: Scale Length: 630 mm = 24-3/8" inches Nut Width: 42.5 mm = 1-5/8" Upper Bout Width: 265 mm = 10-7/16" Lower Bout Width: 360 mm = 14-3/16" Total Guitar Length: 1020 mm = 40-3/16" Total Body Length: 490 mm = 19-5/16" Upper Bout Depth: 90 mm = 3-9/16" Lower Bout Depth: 105 mm = 4-1/8" That’s all the details but what is it like as a guitar? My guitar? Playing wise, it has fairly low action, with a good tension, on the strings. By that, I mean the strings are solid, with plenty of vibrancy. I pretty much always play in standard pitch and tuning. The body size and shape is very comfortable and is more 00 than parlour. The neck feels ample but is not chunky. Barre chords, anywhere on the neck, are easy and comfortable. The dimensions show that the neck is narrower than the usual finger style guitar. It doesn’t feel narrow to me, for finger or flat picking. If I said, an all-Koa, New Yorker style guitar, to most experienced, acoustic guitarists, they probably would have an idea of what it should sound like. Perhaps they’d think: Like an all-mahogany, but less warm and woody; brighter and a little harder. And yes, there is something in that description. But there’s more. It’s not an all-out tone machine, that sings and projects like an opera singer. It does have a subtlety though, that is smooth and ringing, with a fairly full, even tone. It doesn’t boom but the bass end is quite solid. It doesn’t chime but it does sparkle. Single notes are vibrant and strong. Chords are balanced, sweet and clear. I guess this guitar was designed as a pick-up and play, song writing tool. And also as a performer, it being great for stage work. I guess I want it more for the former but know it has enough for strong acoustic and electric performances. And most importantly it feels good in my hands, sounds sweet to my ears and is a feast for my eyes.
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Post by grayn on Apr 6, 2013 12:28:35 GMT
BTW, I actually still own this one
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Post by leoroberts on Apr 6, 2013 12:29:50 GMT
I've always liked the look of Koa as an instrument wood - there's so much going on...
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Post by ocarolan on Apr 6, 2013 13:12:01 GMT
It's a lovely looker that's for sure (apart from the preamp anyway!). Interesting that you kept that one Graham - good sofa guitar I'm sure - v cuddly! Keith
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Post by grayn on Apr 6, 2013 14:15:44 GMT
It's a lovely looker that's for sure (apart from the preamp anyway!). Interesting that you kept that one Graham - good sofa guitar I'm sure - v cuddly! Keith Agreed Keith, the preamp is a minor eyesore. I think when I was concentrating wholly on acoustic guitar, it put a lot more pressure on what ever guitar I owned. That and seemingly perpetual GAS caused a lot of lovely guitars to pass through my hands. Most of them were probably too good for me any way. The Takamine certainly isn't the best guitar I have owned, by some way. That would have to go to the Goodall. But a friend of mine, who owns a load of acoustic and electric instruments, played the Takamine, a few months ago and absolutely loved it. Horses for courses and all that. I certainly love the Tak's looks and it really is ideal for the odd pick up and play moment.
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Post by Martin on Apr 6, 2013 16:35:23 GMT
Lovely guitar Graham, and thanks again for posting these reviews
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Post by cofton on Jan 15, 2014 23:52:53 GMT
Hi guys, new to the forum and glad to be hanging out here. Can you tell me if the EF407 is solid Koa wood or laminated? Seems to be confusion on internet reviews, some say it's solid Koa others say just Koa others say it's laminate. Seems an awful lot to pay for a laminate guitar. Many thanks in advance.
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Post by ocarolan on Jan 16, 2014 0:45:59 GMT
Hi cofton, and to the Forum. I'm sure grayn will be along at some stage with an answer for you, but in the meantime why not nip over to the Introductions section and say Hi to everyone - maybe with an idea of you musical tastes/instrument(s) played etc? Keith
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Post by alig on Jan 16, 2014 11:41:35 GMT
It's a lovely looker that's for sure (apart from the preamp anyway!). Interesting that you kept that one Graham - good sofa guitar I'm sure - v cuddly! Keith Agreed Keith, the preamp is a minor eyesore. I think when I was concentrating wholly on acoustic guitar, it put a lot more pressure on what ever guitar I owned. That and seemingly perpetual GAS caused a lot of lovely guitars to pass through my hands. Most of them were probably too good for me any way. The Takamine certainly isn't the best guitar I have owned, by some way. That would have to go to the Goodall. But a friend of mine, who owns a load of acoustic and electric instruments, played the Takamine, a few months ago and absolutely loved it. Horses for courses and all that. I certainly love the Tak's looks and it really is ideal for the odd pick up and play moment. Goodall? Goodall, did you say? What model? I have an Adi/Mah concert jumbo which is a fine, fine guitar. Bright and shimmery - a pleasure to play. Was considering moving it on, what with a couple of Tarans coming along but… I posted a link for it on another thread but damned if I remember where! I'd love to hear from another Goodall owner. Alasdair. PS This Tak looks beautiful. I had a Taylor all Koa GS that was sold last year. The wood is just sublime - more like Tiger's Eye than wood. I sometimes regret having sold it - it was beautiful to look at!
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Post by clydeslide on Jan 16, 2014 12:51:49 GMT
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Post by cofton on Jan 16, 2014 21:38:16 GMT
Thanks clydeslide, yes I think you're right. I bought one on a whim thinking it was solid wood, beautiful looking guitar but although it sounds okay it's not a fantastic sound. Real eye catcher and the size I want but let down a little with acoustic sound, plugged in it's fine and as I do open mics and recording it will do the job. Mine's the PT407 which i think is identical to the EF407 but specifically marketed in Japan. The serial number isn't 'normal' but checked on Takamine website and it was made in 2000 but not a mark on it so cannot complain as I did want an older model. Think I've learned my lesson not to buy on internet as I feel if I'd tried it out first I think I would have carried on shopping....but hey ho we all learn...it's okay but nothing special soundwise...I think Takamine have made a great looking guitar and I feel people often buy by looks and they've played on this, make a good looker and the profit is there for the taking...having said that it is a nice guitar but I think the RRP is over priced, you can buy solid wood these days at the same price level, Yamaha, Crafter and Walden all offer great solid guitars for the same price level.
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Post by grayn on Jan 18, 2014 17:23:51 GMT
Agreed Keith, the preamp is a minor eyesore. I think when I was concentrating wholly on acoustic guitar, it put a lot more pressure on what ever guitar I owned. That and seemingly perpetual GAS caused a lot of lovely guitars to pass through my hands. Most of them were probably too good for me any way. The Takamine certainly isn't the best guitar I have owned, by some way. That would have to go to the Goodall. But a friend of mine, who owns a load of acoustic and electric instruments, played the Takamine, a few months ago and absolutely loved it. Horses for courses and all that. I certainly love the Tak's looks and it really is ideal for the odd pick up and play moment. Goodall? Goodall, did you say? What model? I have an Adi/Mah concert jumbo which is a fine, fine guitar. Bright and shimmery - a pleasure to play. Was considering moving it on, what with a couple of Tarans coming along but… I posted a link for it on another thread but damned if I remember where! I'd love to hear from another Goodall owner. Alasdair. PS This Tak looks beautiful. I had a Taylor all Koa GS that was sold last year. The wood is just sublime - more like Tiger's Eye than wood. I sometimes regret having sold it - it was beautiful to look at! The Goodall I owned is The Goodall I owned is reviewed here: acousticsoundboard.co.uk/thread/658/james-goodall-koa-grand-concert
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Post by grayn on Jan 18, 2014 17:28:34 GMT
As far as I know, the Tak is laminate. As I said, in my review, this guitar was built as a pickup and play sofa guitar and is also very nice amped up. It is a very well made guitar and doesn't try to compete with guitars for projection and massive tone. In my view it was well worth it's price, for looks, playability and a very sweet tone.
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Post by alig on Jan 18, 2014 19:03:19 GMT
Goodall? Goodall, did you say? What model? I have an Adi/Mah concert jumbo which is a fine, fine guitar. Bright and shimmery - a pleasure to play. Was considering moving it on, what with a couple of Tarans coming along but… I posted a link for it on another thread but damned if I remember where! I'd love to hear from another Goodall owner. Alasdair. PS This Tak looks beautiful. I had a Taylor all Koa GS that was sold last year. The wood is just sublime - more like Tiger's Eye than wood. I sometimes regret having sold it - it was beautiful to look at! The Goodall I owned is The Goodall I owned is reviewed here: acousticsoundboard.co.uk/thread/658/james-goodall-koa-grand-concertExcellent! If I were to review my Goodall's sound I couldn't improve upon the above review. Thanks for that. Alasdair.
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Post by cofton on Jan 20, 2014 22:23:51 GMT
As far as I know, the Tak is laminate. As I said, in my review, this guitar was built as a pickup and play sofa guitar and is also very nice amped up. It is a very well made guitar and doesn't try to compete with guitars for projection and massive tone. In my view it was well worth it's price, for looks, playability and a very sweet tone. Yes it is laminate grayn. It is a beautiful guitar, a real eye catcher, everyone seems to comment and this makes most guitarists feel good and proud of their guitar. Amped up most guitars sound half decent if the PA or amp is decent. I just feel that the RRP (at the moment in the UK the RRP is £800-£900) is overpriced for a laminate guitar, in my opinion it's worth maybe £400-£500 due to how good it looks mainly...and the sound acoustically is nice, nothing near brilliant, but nice. I have a Yamaha FS413S and it sounds far superior and cost just £150 some years ago, I feel most solid top guitars in the lower budget end will sound as good if not better than the EF 407. I cannot understand why Takamine didn't at least give it a solid Koa top, the looks would not have suffered and I'm guessing the sound would have improved immensely. I have a Takamine EF261 which has a solid Cedar top and the sound is far superior to the EF407 (but still not as good as my Yamaha :-) ) I agree we all have different views on how a guitar should sound at different budgets, it is very subjective and certainly what sounds good to one guitarist sounds different to another....but generally a solid wood top does sound better to me.
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