David Hutton
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Post by David Hutton on Oct 16, 2014 19:24:22 GMT
Very nice entry from David Hutton - that's a good sound you're getting from your new Zoom, David! Many thanks.
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Post by David Hutton on Oct 16, 2014 13:07:16 GMT
Thanks leo. Being simple myself, I could not agree more. Your effort is excellent by the way. Something to aspire to. Very kind of you to say so! First time I've ever tried to actually write a choon - and do something in open tuning whilst I was at it, too. Hence it lasts about 60 seconds I haven't worked out where to put my fingers in standard tuning, so any alternative tuning is a bit of mystery!
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Post by David Hutton on Oct 16, 2014 12:52:22 GMT
Nicely done, David Hutton. Sometimes simple is best. Congratulations on your first recording with the Zoom H2 .. and on your competition entry Thanks leo. Being simple myself, I could not agree more. Your effort is excellent by the way. Something to aspire to.
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Post by David Hutton on Oct 16, 2014 9:23:38 GMT
Here be my attempt at a song. Sorry its a bit quiet on the recording. All this is a first for me both writing a song and recording it. I purchased a 2nd hand H2 zoom for it as this was recommended somewhere on this forum as a easy method. I am not really sure what I am doing but though frustrating its fun trying!
The song is about the various stages one can feel when somebody ends a relationship with you. Despair, confusion and then angry. Its not very wordy which is good, as I cannot sing.
Please don't leave me Please stay, with me I can change
You know it really hurt I don't know what I did Or what I said It really hurt
So you so everything is ok For you Well its not for me Well At least not to day
Musically its just a conventional chord sequence with a little (almost nursery rhyme) tune picked out of it. Basically composed by my limited guitar playing skills. I do try to change it throughout, but am very limited in what I can do.
https%3A//soundcloud.com/davidhutton/please
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Post by David Hutton on Aug 29, 2014 13:37:10 GMT
I often use TAB to learn a piece too, although I'm trying to move away from over-reliance as it were. I find that when I can play a piece reasonably well from the TAB, I have learned it in phrases at a time. I then try to play each phrase that I've learned, one at a time without the TAB and then revert to the music for the rest of the piece. Once I can do this smoothly, I then try to include the second phrase, ignoring the TAB just for that small part, and so on. Building it up in small ways like this is the only way I can keep a piece in my head, and if I'm not playing it regularly, then I still need to refer to the TAB briefly after 'learning it' off the page. Sorry if this isn't very clear, but I guess what I mean is, break it up into very small pieces and try to do them from memory, adding a little at a time until you've got it all. Well after just a couples of days trying this, I can almost play the whole thing badly without tab. Many Thanks again. I will now try to work at it without looking at the tab. Hopefully that way I will get to put a little of myself into the tune, not that I am sure putting a little of myself into anything is ever a good thing!
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Post by David Hutton on Aug 29, 2014 13:29:13 GMT
andyhowell and Phil Taylor: good decision! Its a cracking book which I return to repeatedly and always find something new. His other book - HERE - is also worth a look. I am sure you will enjoy getting in touch with your inner Scot... Brian With such I recommendation, I have gone for it as well.
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Post by David Hutton on Aug 27, 2014 15:35:01 GMT
TABS are of course very useful but they are also the stuff of nightmares. I ran a club for some years and my heart used to sink when guitar players started out on something that they had learnt by TAB. So many of them didn't take the tab as a start off point but tried to learn it off by heart — they somehow forgot about the heart of the music, the swing, the rhythm and so on. I was — strangely enough — mussing on this as I played live on Sunday. At the end of singing a new song I decided to add a little finger style waltz instrumental at the end. It went for me horribly wrong! However, few people seemed to notice I think because even the mistakes were fluid! For my money becoming fluid in your playing is one of the critical things guitar players need to aim for. Play less notes if necessary and you will play them better. A TAB can reveal all kinds of little tricks of the trade. But you need to know when to lock them away and play real music !!! Yes I can see that just replicating the tab could remove the heart of the music and prevent you from putting a bit of yourself into it. However as a starter I would not know where to start without the tab. I hoping that by learning more tunes that I might develop to be able to play things by ear, but appreciate that this might be a bit of a leap.
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Post by David Hutton on Aug 27, 2014 15:26:09 GMT
I often use TAB to learn a piece too, although I'm trying to move away from over-reliance as it were. I find that when I can play a piece reasonably well from the TAB, I have learned it in phrases at a time. I then try to play each phrase that I've learned, one at a time without the TAB and then revert to the music for the rest of the piece. Once I can do this smoothly, I then try to include the second phrase, ignoring the TAB just for that small part, and so on. Building it up in small ways like this is the only way I can keep a piece in my head, and if I'm not playing it regularly, then I still need to refer to the TAB briefly after 'learning it' off the page. Sorry if this isn't very clear, but I guess what I mean is, break it up into very small pieces and try to do them from memory, adding a little at a time until you've got it all. Thats great thanks Martin, I think that makes sense and will give it a go.
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Post by David Hutton on Aug 27, 2014 11:24:31 GMT
Currently I am trying to learn Ocarolan’s excellent denison’s delight. Getting there slowly and really enjoying the experience. A big thank you to Keith for sending me the tab. I have a process to work out how to play a tune, it’s slow but it almost works. However I would really love to be able to play a piece of music without having the tab in front of me and really struggle to do this. I am not sure how much I actually use the tab when I am playing, but cannot seem to play without it. Does anybody have any tips of how to get over the reliance on tab? Or is this just something that one learns when they become a more accomplished guitar player i.e. not having to teach yourself a new set of chords for every song and perhaps being able to work out tunes from ear.
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