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Post by Oska Burman Guitars on May 6, 2023 15:11:46 GMT
Afternoon everyone. I discovered the incredibly talented Heather Cartwright's www.heathercartwright.co.uk/ music awhile back & instantly thought that her playing style would be perfect for my guitars. So I invited her down to my studio workshop a few weeks ago to do some recordings. Here she plays one of her own compositions, "Goodnight Glasgow", on my OM in Alpine Spruce/Bog Oak. (If you're also interested, you can view my build thread & finished pictures of this guitar as well). As always, a nice pair of headphones or speakers will do the audio justice. Some of the guitar specs are: Scale length: 630mm (24.9″) – short scale Nut width: 44mm (~1 3/4″) String spacing @ bridge: 11.3mm (~2 1/4″) Body depth @ heel: 91mm Body depth @ tail block: 105mm Soundhole ø: 98 Hope you enjoy! Cheers |
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Post by Phil Taylor on May 6, 2023 15:19:25 GMT
This is a beautiful guitar and would be perfect for in terms of the dims above and it's got a lovely sound too. Have you noticed that the sound is only coming out of the left channel Oska? It's not my headphones.
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EDIT by Keith - I've put Oska's corrected video in now Phil - thanks for noticing the sound of the original one, and I've also removed the lengthy quote for clarity. Hope that's OK!
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Post by ocarolan on May 6, 2023 17:42:19 GMT
That a great sounding guitar Oska, and Heather plays really well - lovely! Congrats to both!
keith
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Oska Burman Guitars
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Post by Oska Burman Guitars on May 7, 2023 7:59:52 GMT
This is a beautiful guitar and would be perfect for in terms of the dims above and it's got a lovely sound too. Have you noticed that the sound is only coming out of the left channel Oska? It's not my headphones. Phil EDIT by Keith - I've put Oska's corrected video in now Phil - thanks for noticing the sound of the original one, and I've also removed the lengthy quote for clarity. Hope that's OK!Thank you Phil. Seems as though you're a short scale OM kind-of-player? PS. Thanks for pointing out the sound issue too! |
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Post by Oska Burman Guitars on May 7, 2023 8:01:01 GMT
That a great sounding guitar Oska, and Heather plays really well - lovely! Congrats to both! keith Cheers Keith. Yes, Heather's style really brought out some good tonal ranges of the guitar I thought. |
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Post by forestdweller on May 7, 2023 12:39:54 GMT
Wow that was amazing. The specs are exactly my sort of guitar. Amazing work both of you  |
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Post by Phil Taylor on May 7, 2023 14:34:15 GMT
This is a beautiful guitar and would be perfect for in terms of the dims above and it's got a lovely sound too. Have you noticed that the sound is only coming out of the left channel Oska? It's not my headphones. Phil EDIT by Keith - I've put Oska's corrected video in now Phil - thanks for noticing the sound of the original one, and I've also removed the lengthy quote for clarity. Hope that's OK!Thank you Phil. Seems as though you're a short scale OM kind-of-player? PS. Thanks for pointing out the sound issue too! I certainly am. I have a custom Brook Lamorna which is OM shaped but 630mm scale length. SS OM or similar size guitars are a fairly rare thing. |
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Post by earwighoney on May 7, 2023 14:39:42 GMT
Thank you Phil. Seems as though you're a short scale OM kind-of-player? PS. Thanks for pointing out the sound issue too! I certainly am. I have a custom Brook Lamorna which is OM shaped but 630mm scale length. SS OM or similar size guitars are a fairly rare thing.
I agree, short scale OM's are quite thin on the ground at most price points it seems.
Fine work to Oska, a truly lovely sounding instrument in the hands of a fantastic guitar player.
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Post by Phil Taylor on May 7, 2023 15:35:49 GMT
I certainly am. I have a custom Brook Lamorna which is OM shaped but 630mm scale length. SS OM or similar size guitars are a fairly rare thing. In the way of Martin naming traditions, the guitar you describe is not an OM but a 14 fret 000, a true OM is long scale. I think they are slightly different instruments, the slight change in length does make a difference. I agree, short scale 14 fret guitars are quite thin on the ground at most price points it seems.
Fine work to Oska, a truly lovely sounding instrument in the hands of a fantastic guitar player.
You are correct in a way if you want to stick to the Martin nomenclature but I think that is long gone and Martin have contributed to their own downfall in this regard. There are many examples of this from Martin. My first 'decent' guitar was a 1990 standard range 14 fret 00016 which was 650mm scale length which in theory should have been named an OM......but it wasn't. Collings do OM's with short scale but are not named 000's as do Eastman. There are other examples and indeed some builders do stick to Martin's nomenclature. In view of the above I just consider the name OM to be a generic term for a guitar that can an almost exact Martin OM or an approximation of the traditional OM shape such as Oska's beautiful version featured above. Phil |
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Post by forestdweller on May 7, 2023 15:39:01 GMT
Thank you Phil. Seems as though you're a short scale OM kind-of-player? PS. Thanks for pointing out the sound issue too! I certainly am. I have a custom Brook Lamorna which is OM shaped but 630mm scale length. SS OM or similar size guitars are a fairly rare thing. Phil I always thought the Lamorna was 640mm scale length- did you customise it to 630? The thing I love about my Huss & Dalton is it basically a scaled down OM- the body width is smaller than an OM (a oo is 14 1/4 apposed to 15 1/8 for the OM ) but the depth is the same. The scale length of mine is 24.9 inches which according to Google is just over 632mm so about the same as a Brook Torridge and Lyn. My hand issues (now thankfully almost gone) have made this short scale guitar very comfortable and by contrast my 660mm Brook feels absolutely huge! |
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Post by Phil Taylor on May 7, 2023 16:33:31 GMT
I certainly am. I have a custom Brook Lamorna which is OM shaped but 630mm scale length. SS OM or similar size guitars are a fairly rare thing. Phil I always thought the Lamorna was 640mm scale length- did you customise it to 630? The thing I love about my Huss & Dalton is it basically a scaled down OM- the body width is smaller than an OM (a oo is 14 1/4 apposed to 15 1/8 for the OM ) but the depth is the same. The scale length of mine is 24.9 inches which according to Google is just over 632mm so about the same as a Brook Torridge and Lyn. My hand issues (now thankfully almost gone) have made this short scale guitar very comfortable and by contrast my 660mm Brook feels absolutely huge! Yes Robbie it's 630mm. |
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Post by earwighoney on May 7, 2023 16:35:41 GMT
In the way of Martin naming traditions, the guitar you describe is not an OM but a 14 fret 000, a true OM is long scale. I think they are slightly different instruments, the slight change in length does make a difference. I agree, short scale 14 fret guitars are quite thin on the ground at most price points it seems.
Fine work to Oska, a truly lovely sounding instrument in the hands of a fantastic guitar player.
You are correct in a way if you want to stick to the Martin nomenclature but I think that is long gone and Martin have contributed to their own downfall in this regard. There are many examples of this from Martin. My first 'decent' guitar was a 1990 standard range 14 fret 00016 which was 650mm scale length which in theory should have been named an OM......but it wasn't. Collings do OM's with short scale but are not named 000's as do Eastman. There are other examples and indeed some builders do stick to Martin's nomenclature. In view of the above I just consider the name OM to be a generic term for a guitar that can an almost exact Martin OM or an approximation of the traditional OM shape such as Oska's beautiful version featured above. Phil
I agree with your observations entirely, and you replied before I was able to fully edit my initial post! My intention was not to be a stickler for naming conventions but to suggest shorter scaled instruments (ie 24.9" or so) are somewhat under represented, and it's good to see an offering as wonderfully constructed as Oska's instrument above. I myself find a shorter scaled instrument easier on the fingers, and prefer the sound as well. Apologies for the derail.
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Post by Onechordtrick on May 7, 2023 18:11:37 GMT
In the way of Martin naming traditions, the guitar you describe is not an OM but a 14 fret 000, a true OM is long scale. I think they are slightly different instruments, the slight change in length does make a difference. I agree, short scale 14 fret guitars are quite thin on the ground at most price points it seems.
Fine work to Oska, a truly lovely sounding instrument in the hands of a fantastic guitar player.
You are correct in a way if you want to stick to the Martin nomenclature but I think that is long gone and Martin have contributed to their own downfall in this regard. There are many examples of this from Martin. My first 'decent' guitar was a 1990 standard range 14 fret 00016 which was 650mm scale length which in theory should have been named an OM......but it wasn't. Collings do OM's with short scale but are not named 000's as do Eastman. There are other examples and indeed some builders do stick to Martin's nomenclature. In view of the above I just consider the name OM to be a generic term for a guitar that can an almost exact Martin OM or an approximation of the traditional OM shape such as Oska's beautiful version featured above. Phil I agree Martin don’t even really adhere to their own standard. For example, a 000 is a 14 fretter unless it’s a a 00015-SM when it’s a 12 fretter. Probably simpler to just refer to Devonian rivers if we need a taxonomy  |
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Post by forestdweller on May 7, 2023 19:39:21 GMT
I have just been investigating that very talented lady's website- my, she has some beautiful compositions up there, such as "The Bell That Never Rang" |
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Oska Burman Guitars
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Post by Oska Burman Guitars on May 12, 2023 7:02:11 GMT
Wow that was amazing. The specs are exactly my sort of guitar. Amazing work both of you Cheers for your comments here forestdweller. I certainly am. I have a custom Brook Lamorna which is OM shaped but 630mm scale length. SS OM or similar size guitars are a fairly rare thing.
I agree, short scale OM's are quite thin on the ground at most price points it seems.
Fine work to Oska, a truly lovely sounding instrument in the hands of a fantastic guitar player.
Thank you earwighoney. Appreciate your feedback. |
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