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Post by robmc on Mar 24, 2021 18:25:59 GMT
I do like the look of the coyote wood, very vibrant
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Post by leoroberts on Mar 27, 2021 13:37:09 GMT
Profiling can be good (think 'Cracker' or 'Tony Hill') or it can be bad (think 'racial' and 'Metropolitan Police') It is also something which happens to guitars or, at least the rim-sets. When I was at school getting a wedgie was definitely something to be avoided. I could've gone commando, of course, but that might have caused a stir in the gym so I suffered along with the rest. But it appears that a Manzer Wedge is a good thing. It allows the player to see the strings a bit better whilst still wearing underclothes but, and this is important, the back of the rim set needs to be profiled to allow it to happen... along with profiling for the back curvature and for the reduction in height from the tail-block to neck-block. Then the Mahogany back linings are glued in using fish glue. And, as if that wasn't enough already, the top of the rim-set must also profiled for the top curvature and the Mahogany top linings glued in using fish glue. Yes, you read that correctly, more piscine glue. I'm not a big fan of fish so am not in the least bit concerned that seemingly many, many, small fish (or a lower number of medium sized fish or one chuffing mahoosive fish) have been sacrificed in order to give me something on which I can play my three chords.
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Post by leoroberts on Apr 15, 2021 16:11:43 GMT
Sea air is bracing. Sometimes teeth need braces. Being the overly cautious type I can be described as a 'belt and braces' sort of chap. This is particularly important as I need to go to a specialist retailer to get belts in my size. It will probably be no surprise to you that guitars need bracing, too. At least the hollow ones do. I don't think leccy guitars need bracing. there's nothing to brace in a leccy. So the Mahogany side braces are notched into the linings and glued in with hot hide glue. I like the alliteration of 'hot hide glue'. It's a shame they don't also make dayglo glue. I don't know who 'they' are. Glue makers, I suppose. Like fish and horses. I like soundports. I really do think they add to the listening experience of the player. Sadly, they also allow the player to confirm that, yes, they really did play that bum note. But that is only of concern for lesser players than I who has never, ever, misfretted or anything even remotely similar. But you can't have a soundhole without a maple back strip. I've always said that. Always. And so a Maple backstrip is glued in using fish glue where the side sound port will be cut. But it's important that luthiers take advantage of all the technological advances available to them. That's why they use Hot Hide and Fish glue, I suppose. Cutting-edge adhesives like that. Anyway, in order to keep the body in a permanent state of rigor mortis (without actually murdering it - something I could never be accused of when it comes to guitar playing) the carbon fibre rod flying-buttress braces are fitted. And then side sound port is cut. It's not as big as the one in the front. This is for practical reasons: the front is wider than the sides are deep. Doing it the other way around with the big hole on the side and the small hole on the front would be stupid. Dave isn't stupid. Yes, I know it looks a bit rough now but final shaping will come later - hopefully before I take possession or else it won't get done at all. I don't do practical sorts of things like this - I'm more 'give him the job and he'll finish the tools' if I'm honest. Which I always am. Scrupulously. That doesn't sound like a real word when you look at it or say it slowly but I checked, and it is. More to come soon...
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Post by earthbalm on Apr 15, 2021 17:47:43 GMT
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Post by leoroberts on Apr 19, 2021 7:54:05 GMT
So far, so Lughnasa, right? Well this is a special edition Lughnasa. a Lughnasa Fiúntach Curadhi. And there's a reason this model has those initials. I was aware that I wanted to support Liverpool much younger than I became aware that I wanted to be able to play the guitar. This instrument has been specially designed to coalesce my two passions. How? You ask. Or maybe you don't. maybe bringing football into this whole thing was a big mistake on my part. D'you know what? I don't care. The Liver bird end-graft is made, inspired by the Henri Matisse paper cuts and using wood pieces of Pequia Amerello (Yellowheart) and Coyote Wood. The end graft has white maple lines on the outer edges to match the binding design. Of course, given last night's grim news of a breakaway league (of which, shamefully LFC is a part) perhaps the Liverbird motif should be even more broken than it is.... I'd be quite happy to have this artwork framed and put on my wall, but davewhite is incorporating it into the guitar as an end graft. And he's not just going to glue it on, oh no - it's going to be embedded into the instrument. This means that a slot must be cut. Perceived wisdom would be that this would be done using a slot machine - but apparently they have nothing to do with guitars. I'm reeling at that news. He probably used a chisel or a saw. Or maybe a router - but I don't see how WiFi would have helped. Whatever, the job was done. It's a tight fit but, to ensure it stays in (back to 'belt and braces, eh?) the end graft is glued in together with Maple side strips. Dave didn't tell me what sort of glue he used. Fish? Hot Hide? Araldite? We may never know. It's probably not important in the grand scheme of things. As long as it sticks. And all these shenanigans mean that the rim set is now complete.
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Post by earthbalm on Apr 19, 2021 15:46:09 GMT
Again, thanks for the entertainment Dave and Leo.
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Post by leoroberts on Apr 24, 2021 21:55:10 GMT
So, that's the rim set sorted. To us aficionados it is quite clearly the rim set for an acoustic guitar. For the uninitiated, though, it might just be a frame for some mirrored glass in one of those 'Hall Of Mirrors' that you get in funfairs. These are usually found in tents. Bear with me, I've worked on perfecting this segue for ages. It's not really worth it but I'm going to try and style it out... As I said, Funfair attractions are often found in tents. davewhite has used the tent method to join the book matched Coyote Wood back pieces are thicknessed and joined with hot hide glue. Was it worth it for that link? No, almost certainly not but you've read it now so I can't take it back. I ran out of bracing puns in an earlier post, so the following two pictures must needs be accompanied by a fairly dry description of what is going on, which is that he bracing positions are marked. The European Spruce X braces are then glued in using hot hide glue after notching and profiling the bottom surface to a 10’ radius. I don't know what Dave uses to measure the radius. Probably a radiator. That sounds about right. I never met my real ladder, I have a step-ladder. My nascent guitar also has ladders. Ladder braces, to be precise. They are glued in place with the pressure from a go-bar deck because, frankly, gravity just doesn't cut it. I accept that these pictures would possibly be more interesting if they were taken in a go-go bar but Dave's workshop is in Hughenden not Soho. Nonetheless, the pictures provide something for everyone, irrespective of whether your preference is boobs or bum...
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Post by leoroberts on Apr 24, 2021 22:02:30 GMT
If you want to get ahead, get a hat. That's what they say. Well, they don't say it anymore, but they definitely used to. It was probably an advert or something. My guitar wants to get ahead, but not too far. It decided against a hat and opted for a cap instead. A Coyote Wood cap that would sit over the X-Braces. It will take a strong wind to knock it off but, in case I'm playing it after a decent curry, Dave glued it on just to make sure. And that, more or less, is the back sorted. Well, after Dave works his magic and the braces are carved and the back “voiced”. There's trimming and stuff to do - hence the outline. But that is for another day.
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Post by earthbalm on Apr 25, 2021 8:12:03 GMT
I'll let the reader work out which graphic relates to Leo and which to Dave.
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Post by leoroberts on Apr 26, 2021 5:51:29 GMT
Of course, at the moment, it's still something of an 'open sandwich... these are the worst of sandwiches, almost impossible to eat. Makers try to compensate for the lack of a second slice of bread by piling up the filling. Of course, because of the aforementioned lack of a second slice, it's not some much a filling as a topping. A topping that refuses to be stay where it is supposed to be and goes everywhere as soon as you raise the 'sandwich' towards your mouth. Guitars are very different from sandwiches - we don't eat them for a start. But they DO require a top. This not only hides much of the gubbins inside but also adds some rigidity and, often, a pleasing aesthetic. davewhite has signed, dated and braced the top although not, as yet, 'closed the butty' - but all the bits are there, ready to so do. Logic suggests hammer and nails - which is how two bits of wood are normally joined - but careful readers will have noted Dave's proclivity for an animal-based adhesive, so I suspect that's what he'll go with. In case the wording is unclear in the photograph, it says "Created in Liverpool, evolved in Europe, made in Hughenden - YNWA"
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Post by robmc on Apr 26, 2021 11:35:20 GMT
Had a sneaky peak at the build in process yesterday Leo, looking very nice...!
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Post by ocarolan on Apr 26, 2021 13:16:31 GMT
Had a sneaky peak at the build in process yesterday Leo, looking very nice...! Did you sneak a pencil scribble on the underside of the top, Rob? Something like "Everton rools, OK!" Keith
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Post by robmc on Apr 26, 2021 17:01:24 GMT
haha... close Keith, resisted adding, 'only another 29 years to go'
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Post by leoroberts on May 14, 2021 8:45:22 GMT
Along with being a top-class luthier, davewhite is also a time-traveller. I bet you didn't know that. He's kept it a secret for many years - thousands of years if you include his numerous 'temporal jumps'. And I now have proof, which I am prepared to share with you. Yes, you are blessed. You'll notice that my last 'progress report' included the finished top. Well, Dave has just sent me the photos of the top's construction which, if he were not a timelord (perhaps he's Doctor 'Huh') MUST have happened before the top was finished. And yet it didn't. It's a conundrum, alright. So, second things first. I am not a happy camper. If God had meant me to spend nights under canvas he wouldn't have created hotels. That's a given. The only tent I can appreciate is the tent method used to join the pieces for the back or, in this case, top of a guitar. After they've been 'thicknessed', of course. My spellchecker is daring to suggest that 'thicknessed' is not a word. But we all know that it is. The process probably involves a plane and lots of sandpaper. Or maybe Dave just licks the wood down to the right thickness. If he had a cat he could get the cat to do it. But he doesn't so he can't. It's European Spruce if anyone is interested. Not the Europen Cup - it'd have to be a 6 piece top if it was. Because it's an acoustic instrument it's bound to have a soundhole. And the soundhole is itself bound - with Coyote Wood with an inner white Maple edge. And then a Maple soundhole patch is glued on the inside of the top using HHG. That *could* mean 'Hermetically Harmonious Gyroscope' but, chances are, it refers to hot hide glue. I'm not a pony, nor a pony rider nor, when all is said to done, have I any connection with equine competitions at all. I won a silver medal for music when I was at school and have my gold, silver and bronze lifesaver's badges (so, if you know of any rubber bricks that need rescuing from the bottom of swimming pools: I'm your man - as long as I'm wearing pyjamas). What I'm trying to say is that the only rosettes I have ever owned have come in the form of guitar decoration. This requires a channel being cut in the top down to the Maple soundhole patch. And then the Coyote Wood rosette ring and Maple/ Coyote Wood outer purflings are test fitted and glued in using white PVA glue. My kids used PVA glue at school, I think. It's the white stuff, isn't it? Consistency of snot. As long as it works...
Quick quiz for you: What's the difference between Dave and a London bus? One is a Routemaster and the other is a router master. This is useful as next a step is routed in the inner edge of the rosette and then the soundhole is routed out. This gives the look of a totally bound soundhole and the fingerboard edge will finish at the beginning of the step to give a complete Coyote Wood ring with a Maple ring around the inner edge of the soundhole. And, roughly cut to shape, this is what the end result of all that work will look like sometime in the past. Or the future. I'm confused now.
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Post by leoroberts on May 20, 2021 8:04:01 GMT
It is worth noting (at least in my opinion) that, since I started documenting this build, Liverpool FC have undergone something of a renaissance. We are now unbeaten in 9 games having won the last 4 and are in prime position to achieve a place in the UEFA Champions' league next season. Despite not being champions. I know that there are many who will say that this is mere coincidence. And you may be correct. It may be a false correlation and that the real reason we have experienced a phoenix-like resurrection is that I have been more diligent in ensuring I wear my lucky undies on match day and it has nothing to do with this guitar. Who can say with any certainty? I offer this preamble because I can find absolutely nothing even vaguely amusing to say about the next photograph in which Then the European Spruce A frame braces that are inlet into the neck block are glued on. There's not much humour to be had in the next 2 photographs, either. Or maybe there is but I have failed to see it. It's all very technical. To do with radiuses and profiles. The European Spruce braces were prepared to just over 6mm wide. The top X braces were then profiled to a 13’ radius, the notch cut in each brace and then glued in the Gobar deck using hot hide glue. Indeed there are that many notches it's beginning to look like my bedpost. Am I right? My favourite brace, of all the braces, is definitely the Upper Transverse. I don't know why - I just feel as though I have an affinity with it. There's no rhyme nor reason, that's just the way it is. And the best Upper Transverse braces, of all the Upper Transverse braces I have had the pleasure to know, are those that are radiused to a profile of 13'. Like this one: When I was younger, much younger than I am now, I broke my arm. I was so young that it didn't even interfere with my sex life. It was a bad break and resulted in me being off school for a fortnight and in hospital for much of that. I was then, and still am, a voracious reader. My favourite books at the time were by an author called Willard Price. I suspect his books aren't seen as politically correct these days - I think I knew they weren't then, either. In an effort to get me to read something different, my parents brought me 'Call Of The Wild' by Jack London. It's about a dog or a wolf or something. It was ok. I'm not a pet person. I can take them or leave them. Everyone else in my family is very dog-oriented. That's their choice. This whole paragraph was to try and set up a pun between 'call' and 'caul'. I've now forgotten what the pun was going to be. Anyway, The Bubinga bridge patch is glued on in the go-bar deck using hot hide glue and a caul. This is all more evidence of Dave's time travelling abilities to which I alluded a while ago. I think, hope, that he uses this gift sensibly. I get the feeling he's one of the good guys but can you ever really tell?
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