R the F
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Post by R the F on Apr 23, 2016 11:00:04 GMT
Next morning and I have time:
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Post by R the F on Apr 30, 2016 16:27:34 GMT
Do you know what it is yet?
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Post by ocarolan on Apr 30, 2016 17:09:24 GMT
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Post by R the F on May 1, 2016 13:02:08 GMT
I think you came closest, ocarolan . It's going to be one of these. (I hope).
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Post by ocarolan on May 1, 2016 16:06:20 GMT
Hmmm, nice, looks like you saved yourself a few quid too!
Keith
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R the F
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Post by R the F on May 1, 2016 16:45:32 GMT
Yeah, only spent about £278 on it so far - (joke). Let's hope it works!
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Post by R the F on May 1, 2016 17:48:51 GMT
Getting there...
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Post by R the F on May 13, 2016 21:40:16 GMT
... Not far off finished now: I've still got to install a kind of jack at the extreme left end (which will go under the end of the machine-head) and a turnbuckle under the area of the nut to pull down. Then the idea is that you strap the body down to the wooden framework on to the adjustable pads and then register the exact position of the neck with the six rods. Then you take the strings off and, using the jack and the turnbuckle, get the neck back to its exact strung position but without the strings so that you can work on the neck, fretboard and frets without the strings getting in the way. Gods knows if it will work but it's a thing of great beauty. (I can already see it in a corner somewhere covered in cobwebs and dust but you never know.)
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Post by R the F on May 13, 2016 22:14:46 GMT
As for the guitar, well I have made a little halting progress. I've been doing the soundboard purfling and binding. The trouble is I kept making purfling which was no good. Here is the purfling being made. It starts with constructional veneer (maple and sapele) which is about 1.5mm thick. I slice off narrow strips and then glue these together in the order you can see in the picture; I think I described exactly the same thing in my previous thread ("the Bryn Production"): Having glued these together, I then slice diagonal pieces off the sheet using my tiny table saw: These are then arranged into nice chevrons to go around the border of the soundboard. Unfortunately, the first batch I made refused to bend without breaking, with or without heat, so I had to ditch them. I think I used the wrong glue. So then I made a batch with hot hide glue, which I knew would bend nicely with a little heat from the side-bending iron. Unfortunately, I cut them slightly too shallow so that they would have lain slightly below the level of the soundboard. No good. Ditched. The third batch I somehow managed to cut about 0.1mm too wide so that, when paired into chevrons, they were perceptibly too wide for the channel I had cut for them. This was becoming a bit silly. I finally made a batch that bent nicely and fitted into the channel correctly. Here they are being stuck in with hot hide glue: (They're under the tape)... You can see some of them in this one - caked in glue. And here they are all in place, awaiting the addition of strips of maple and sapele to bind them in: Added the binding and then cleaned them up with hot water first, then a scraper and finally sandpaper: I know it's been a while since I wrote it (and you read it) but you may remember that the idea here is to fit the bridge and polish the front before finally putting the back on so I plunged straight into the liberal application of a few fads of shellac: I decided this time to try taping over the footprint of the bridge rather than scrape the finish off later: I might have to tidy it up around the edges but it should help to make sure that the glue gets a good grip. So here is how it stands tonight: Looks a bit like a guitar, doesn't it? Don't be fooled, though; it's like a stage set: smart and shiny on one side and shabbily propped up on the other: I intend to tidy up the insides when I do the final voicing of the soundboard before closing the box so don't despair. Standards will be maintained. Rob
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Post by R the F on May 14, 2016 10:20:54 GMT
Just admiring the accompanying picture of the lustrous sapele side when I realised there was something missing: a hole. Forgotten to bodge a port in the side. Shall I bother?
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Post by ocarolan on May 14, 2016 12:27:30 GMT
Yes.
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Post by R the F on May 14, 2016 16:50:40 GMT
Put a few coats of polish on the guitar face (using traditional technique and materials, of course) and then left it for a few hours. Then flattened it with very fine abrasive paper. Then put some more polish on. Amuses me that, because it's got a really flat front, it actually behaves like a mirror when it's got a bit of a shine on it. Note the Turin Shroud look:
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Post by R the F on May 17, 2016 21:29:52 GMT
I would have liked to have gone straight on with the polishing over the weekend but fancied I could see a hairline crack along the grain running near the join south of the bridge position. I decided a little thin wicking glue (and maybe a little reinforcement on the other side) should sort it out but didn't have any thin superglue. A quick order to Axminster and it arrived today. It was well packed: In fact, this picture makes the bottle look bigger than it is in comparison to the packing. Remarkably, they only charge £1 for postage and packing these days. I hope this doesn't mean they're about to go out of business. Anyway, back to the crack. I wonder if it's the result of polishing pressure; there's not much support under this area and french polishing requires some force. I should have supported it underneath with a pile of old clothes but, as usual, I wasn't thinking. I hope this will solve the problem. I also detected a hairline in the laburnum I'm using for the bridge so I gave that a splash while I was at it.... ...which leads me nicely on to the bridge. Since I'd had to leave off polishing the soundboard, I decided to get on with the bridge, which is the next step in this oddly ordered build. My lump of laburnum is beginning to dwindle and I'm frantically searching for more but there's enough left for this and another guitar or two. I started by slicing 10mm from a lump: That's not a special shape; it's just the shape the lump happens to be. I planed this slice down to a fairly precise 10mm so that I could apply all my plans to it. Then I cut out the bridge shape: Pretty standard bridge shape, I think you'll agree. Drilled and chiselled out the channels for my three saddle pieces. The next step is to mark and then drill 1mm guide holes straight through so that I can relate what's on the top with what's on the bottom: On the paper template the guide-holes are in red, the tops of the string-retaining holes are in black and the recesses into which the ball-ends nestle on the bottom of the bridge are in blue. Here I have just let the drill bit mark out where the tops of the holes should be: You can just make out the guide-holes on the edges of the circles, like little planets. Next the bridge is turned over and the recesses for the ball-ends are drilled to a depth of about 3.5mm with a 5mm drill bit: Over again and the main holes are drilled right through at an angle of around 70 degrees to help with retention of the ball-ends: When you've done this the other side (i.e. the bottom) looks like this; you have to imagine it glued tight to the soundboard to get the idea of the little recesses: Believe me, it's easier to actually do this than it is to keep tabs on which photo is of what and where it comes in the series. Anyway, it only remains to cut the slots to guide the strings into their retaining holes. First mark them out: and then start to saw them at a slope from the saddle position down to the recesses at the bottom: Next you have to stop because people have started coming home from school and work and Jack (the Jack) needs feeding - but there's just time to pop what you've achieved so far on to the guitar-so-far and take a snap: And what could be prettier than that?
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Post by R the F on May 18, 2016 18:43:18 GMT
I haven't reinforced the crack yet but I bundled up an old sheet under the soundboard for support this morning and then started matting with 320 grit paper - with the grain since I'm getting to later stages now and there's won't be so much polish available to remove any swirly scratches. Here it is matted. Not an exciting picture but it gives the idea of the floury look: Followed by a good dusting - hoovering actually - and a few rubbers of polish in figures of eight and finally straightening off along the grain. Left that to go off for a while and switched back to the ongoing bridge. As I've said before, if you don't like laburnum, look away now. (I'm afraid I find it handy for myself to keep a photographic record here of how I went about it last time.) Set about carving it mainly using my lovely 1.5" chisel (bought for me, I believe, by my father-in-law one Christmas - now that's what I call a present!) Here's where I started: In this photo and the one below, you will see the beginnings of bad news. (I don't do this deliberately, by the way; it's just the way things seem to turn out when I post in this forum): Yes, it's a bloomin' great split in the laburnum. I carry on regardless hoping it might go away as I carve - ever the optimist - and anyway I've got a big tub of Cascamite on the shelf if the worst comes to the worst. I've started carving the sides, the front and the back by now and below you might be able to see the beginnings of a scoop across the middle: The idea this time is to provide a bit more bridge support around the three-part saddle since it was left standing a little proud in the last guitar. More of that later. More carving and then some sanding: and it's beginning to look quite healthy but you'll see here what I mean about leaving some wood around the saddle compared to last time: I realised, however, when looking at this photo, that I can afford to relieve the pointy ends a little since the whole thing needs to follow the radiused shape of the fingerboard. I'll do that tomorrow. It'll even help to remove an extra gram or two of weight since this one weighs in at 20g at the moment compare to 18g for the one on the left. On another topic: you may remember that a few days ago ocarolan said, "Yes. K" Well, his prayers are answered: and I'm toying with the idea of having the plywood on show in keeping with the Arts and Crafts idea of showing your workings which was mentioned way back when I was reinforcing the cutaway point joint. Round it off nicely with a bit of sandpaper but just polish it as it is. ocarolan will be the only person to respond if I ask so I won't ask.
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Post by R the F on May 19, 2016 7:46:22 GMT
In what I suspect to be the true Arts & Crafts spirit I have decided overnight not to stain any parts of this guitar. That means that the laburnum will be laburnum-coloured both on the bridge and on the fretboard. My main worry is that fingers may make the fretboard look grubby and I'm not sure that oiling will prevent that. There's plenty of time to ponder this before I reach the crunch so any advice would be welcome. I want to avoid the high-gloss finish they put on maple fretboards on electrics, however.
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