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Post by leoroberts on Nov 19, 2014 21:55:25 GMT
Ha! I have enough problems tuning my 6 string, the thought of retuning a 12-er to open G fills me with dread! I'll think about it if I ever get drunk enough to try, though Thanks for the kind comments.
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Post by Mike Floorstand on Nov 19, 2014 23:06:27 GMT
Mike Floorstand - I thought Herringthorpe Beck was just lovely - superbly done, and the tempo change worked really well. Definitely the best story behind the tune so far, but I beg to differ over matters titular - "Bumboarding on Baking Trays" is a great title! Thanks Keith! Just been listening to your piece, a strong central melody throughout but with some really interesting twists and turns, countermelodies and powerful basslines, and all perfectly played; I hate you!
But you do seem to be in need of a tune name so I'd like to offer you the BoBT title, completely free of charge. This is a frankly insane gesture of goodwill on my part as it will only increase your chances of winning, so I suggest you accept it quickly before I change my mind...
I see what you did there, very good! Auntie Jennifer's cupcakes were certainly never quite the same after our baking tray repurposing.
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Post by ocarolan on Nov 19, 2014 23:29:59 GMT
Joe, thanks for your kind comments on my choon, and thanks even more for your kind suggestion that I might use BoBT for a title.
However, after careful thought I feel I ought, with great regret, to decline as I have only ever used bits of cardboard grocery boxes for the purpose in question and so to allude to baking tins in this context might risk compromising my artistic integrity. I'm sure you'll understand. Best regards to Auntie Jennifer. Especially her cupcakes, which more than amply filled their containers.
Keith
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Post by Mike Floorstand on Nov 19, 2014 23:41:05 GMT
I've just been listening to the Mike Floorstand piece "Herringthorpe Beck". Another excellent entry in this competition ... I don't fancy the task of the judges having to try to choose one piece that's the winner in this competition. Great work Joe - excellent playing, sound and composition too! The way the piece works musically and in creating contrasting moods as both a slow air and as a more up-tempo piece is very impressive. Nice job with the open string and harp effect - it does give it extra resonances that I wouldn't expect from standard tuning. Thank you for putting the TAB up for it too - it will be fascinating to get some idea of the way it works, though I'm pretty sure from watching your left hand it'll prove too much for my old twinging fingers to play it properly! Mark Thanks Mark. My idea behind posting the tab is that everyone can learn my composition, post a recording on youtube, make it go massively viral thus making me unimaginably rich. I will then withdraw from the competition which obviously increases your chances of winning; you know it makes sense!
Just had a few listens to your Rosebery Murder piece and I am very impressed. I like the way it kicks off with some kind of Hard Day's Night mystery chord (which someone will no doubt shortly tell me is just a plain Dmaj), then continues with vocals and accompaniment which are each powerful and intriguing in their own right, and very cleverly balanced. Closest reference I can think of is Leonard Cohen, but really very original. Enjoyed it a lot.
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Post by vikingblues on Nov 20, 2014 8:17:32 GMT
Very altruistic Joe - hope your scheme works out! Many thanks for your kind comments on my "offering". Fortunately I have some scribbled notes which remind me of what I played - what I like about different tunings like DADGAD is I don't know what chords I'm ending up using, just that they sound right. In which regard the opening chord is maybe (I think) Em11/D, though I'm quite prepared to be corrected. D,B,E,G,A,D - strange to relate it doesn't appear on your typical DADGAD chords charts! I think that first chord is followed by A7sus4 and D5 which were easy movements for the fingers but just sounded right. I had to look all those chords up after the event as I'm not too good on chord names, even in standard tuning! Best of luck to you. Mark
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Post by Wild Violet on Nov 21, 2014 21:11:16 GMT
Wow ocarolan, that melody is fantastic. I can hear lyrics all over the place. So nicely played, too. Mike Floorstand - there is incredibly soothing about your song. It reminds me of the stuff they used to put on the Windham Hill CDs - just lovely!!
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Post by ocarolan on Nov 21, 2014 23:04:51 GMT
Thank you Lynn. Keith
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Post by Mike Floorstand on Nov 22, 2014 0:33:03 GMT
Thanks Wild Violet glad you liked it! Still working my way through the comp entries haven't reached yours yet ... alexkirtley great job bringing a piece of forgotten history to life, solid and distinctive strummage which suits the song very well. walkingdecay happy to declare myself a fan of your singing, and the poetry in those lyrics is pure gold. Good choice of accompaniment style too, I'd describe it (almost certainly showing my ignorance) as kind of ragtimey, but whatever you call it I think it which contrasts nicely with the sharp melancholy of the song. bobcarter your piece is pretty astonishing, the three elements - composition, performance, recording - all perfectly executed. You refer to Adrian Legg in your notes - for me this piece evoked Michael Hedges too. Excellent idea to aim for "the sort of tune you could run through in a guitar shop to get a feel for a new instrument" although of course everyone knows the only tune that really meets that criteria is Stairway To Heaven Any chance of publishing the tab for it - all the best entries so far have done that
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Post by soundout on Nov 25, 2014 14:20:48 GMT
Well, no wonder this competition has attracted such a great quality entry. Quite amazing. Congrats to everybody who has entered! Don't want to comment on individual entries except to say that each successive one has made me less confident in my own, if you see what I mean. May the best tune win! And how is the prize coming on? When will we be put out of our misery? Good luck everybody.
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Post by bobcarter on Dec 1, 2014 20:26:28 GMT
Thanks @wildviolettoed it! Still working my way through the comp entries haven't reached yours yet ... alexkirtley great job bringing a piece of forgotten history to life, solid and distinctive strummage which suits the song very well. walkingdecay happy to declare myself a fan of your singing, and the poetry in those lyrics is pure gold. Good choice of accompaniment style too, I'd describe it (almost certainly showing my ignorance) as kind of ragtimey, but whatever you call it I think it which contrasts nicely with the sharp melancholy of the song. bobcarter your piece is pretty astonishing, the three elements - composition, performance, recording - all perfectly executed. You refer to Adrian Legg in your notes - for me this piece evoked Michael Hedges too. Excellent idea to aim for "the sort of tune you could run through in a guitar shop to get a feel for a new instrument" although of course everyone knows the only tune that really meets that criteria is Stairway To Heaven Any chance of publishing the tab for it - all the best entries so far have done that Mike Floorstand Thanks! That's really nice to hear. For someone who's supposedly into fingerstyle, I actually haven't heard any of Michael Hedges' stuff at all, though I know of him of course and thank you for the association! About doing the tab, I'll see what I can do. I'm hopeless at annotating rhythm but should be able to manage the the notes! And I agree that Stairway (and Enter Sandman of course) are really the only serious choices for music shop widdling....
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Post by Andy P on Dec 2, 2014 10:03:18 GMT
Tell me please bobcarter which guitar you used to record that extremely mighty fine tune.
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Post by bobcarter on Dec 2, 2014 21:43:22 GMT
Tell me please bobcarter which guitar you used to record that extremely mighty fine tune. Andy P Glad you liked the tune, thank you! It's a Larrivee L-03Re (the e just means it has a pick-up, in this case an LR Baggs Element Pro undersaddle pick-up), Rosewood and Spruce. I have a little Zoom R8 recorder and a pair of cheap Behringer condenser mics. They're great considering they were only £40, but on their own the mics sound a bit thin and scratchy, so I've been experimenting recently with using one of the mics into one channel and a line out from the headphone socket of my little Yamaha THR5a amp (those are amazing, by the way) for the other channel then mixing the two together.
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Post by Andy P on Dec 3, 2014 20:42:10 GMT
Bob I think a Larrivee is going to be my next guitar. I can't find a bad review anywhere. I've just bought myself an R8. I don't have a condenser mic, just a couple of Shures (SM58 and PG48), both of which are unsuitable. Today I tried running a lead from the DI socket on my Marshall AS50R acoustic amp, but I don't think it worked. I thought the onboard mics were pretty good though. More trial and error ahead.
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Post by bobcarter on Dec 5, 2014 18:17:12 GMT
Andy P Great! I do like my Larrivee. They're not for everyone, so have a good try before you buy (some people find the fretboards too wide, but that suits me well), but I've had mine for about 4 years now and it's been very solid. Interesting that you've gone for an R8 too. I really like it - I used to have an old Zoom MRS4 and the R8 was the upgrade. I haven't got around to trying any of the fancy DAW stuff that comes bundled with it, though - I just use the unit itself. The onboard mics aren't bad at all actually - a more ambient sound than if you mic up closer, but perfectly usable and better than I thought they'd be. And, as coincidence would have it, I used to have an AS50 too. I thought it was terrific for the price but was larger and bulkier than I needed (great if you need guitar + vocals, though), so I found I didn't use it much outside the house. Traded it in for my little Yamaha THR5a which now gets used all the time.
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Post by Andy P on Dec 5, 2014 19:48:59 GMT
I like a wide fretboard myself. It's not easy finding a store within easy travelling distance from west Cornwall where I could try out a range of Larrivees. I wouldn't buy online though, I've made that mistake before (with an Ozark tenor mandola, a complete rip-off), so I'd have to be prepared to travel "up-country" I guess. I'd not heard of the Yamaha THR5a. It's not expensive and looks to have an amazing range of effects for an acoustic amp. I'll hang on to the Marshall for now. Sure it's a bit bulky but not compared to my other amp - a Blackstar HD40 which should come equipped with its own fork-lift.
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