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Post by NikGnashers on Aug 21, 2023 20:14:09 GMT
This popped up in the feed on YouTube, and I initially thought 'no way am I watching that, it's bound to be rubbish'. I mean, how can two people, one acoustic guitar, and a bit of reverb, capture the amazing original production that 10cc spent so long in a studio, producing. It'll be rubbish obviously ...
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Post by NikGnashers on Aug 9, 2023 15:38:05 GMT
I realise acoustic guitars (and other acoustic string instruments) are not electronic, but when I attended college to complete an advanced national diploma in music technology, I did a lot of experimentation with analogue synthesizers. When you have two or even three oscillators playing exactly the same note, it sounds pretty thin, but by using a 'detune' function on two of the oscillators in relation to the first, and pitching both down slightly by differing amounts, the sound starts to really thicken and actually sound much MUCH nicer. I would imagine the very same happens to acoustic instruments and their tunings, when two or three (or more) play together.
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Post by NikGnashers on Aug 8, 2023 14:23:38 GMT
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Post by NikGnashers on Jul 30, 2023 14:47:09 GMT
What Phil said! K ...Nik, just take your favourite bits from each arrangement and make your own "composite" version. Keith great idea, I do like some parts of the other versions, and that might be genius Nik
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Post by NikGnashers on Jul 30, 2023 14:46:15 GMT
I always liked this tune when I saw the film so I think I have to say I like the DVD version the best followed by the 4th video in a close second place. Phil Thanks Phil, I'm genuinely interested in what members of the forum think, Nik
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Post by NikGnashers on Jul 29, 2023 15:45:50 GMT
Recently purchased two sets of TAB/Notation for this, as it's a favourite of mine. I thought I would post up both versions, and ask which one you all prefer. There seems to be three versions of this piece.
The first version (I have TAB) is the one which was filmed on the 'acoustic routes' DVD, with Bert and John Renbourn sat in the kitchen working on the song, and this is my favourite, as the simplicity and way which the guitar melody matches the vocal, is really beautiful in my opinion. Unfortunately the first verse is almost cut off on the film, but the rest of the song is there :
Pierre 'Old picker' (one of my favourite (YouTubers) has done a great cover of this version :
The second version is from a Demo, released on 'living in the shadows' in 2017 :
The third version (I have TAB) is on the Toy Balloon album, and is to my ears, the most complicated and probably the most 'final' version, although I don't like it as much as the DVD version :
What are your thoughts people, and which do you personally prefer ?
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Post by NikGnashers on Jul 18, 2023 19:52:34 GMT
Never saw this before, and thought it was really amusing ! Around the 14 min mark I wasn't expecting that
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Post by NikGnashers on May 7, 2023 15:50:31 GMT
Sad news indeed, although listening to him over the past 3 or 4 years, his voice had really deteriorated unfortunately. In his prime, he was amazing in my opinion, with a unique sound. I have learned a few of his songs, and will do my best to play them to as many people as possible, to do my bit in keeping his memory alive.
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Post by NikGnashers on Apr 30, 2023 7:58:36 GMT
I only play for my own enjoyment (aside from some jam nights and open mic stuff). I try to learn pieces so that I can play them to a level I am happy with myself, but they are never 'finished', because when I watch other players on YouTube or whatever, they usually play a more complicated or intricate version with extra notes etc. For example, it has taken me about 3 years to play Jansch's version of Lady Nothing, but I always preferred Renbourn's version, so I have recently learned the 'intro' section from Renbourn and I'm adding to the main part to replicate more of Renbourn's style. There doesn't seem to be any TAB for the intro, or even guides on how to play it, so I have simply repeatedly watched Gonbe on YouTube at 1/4 speed to work out what his fingers are doing !
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Post by NikGnashers on Jan 29, 2023 7:23:21 GMT
I think this 'choice' basically boils down to asthetics. I have tried and owned a few of both styles, and sonically there is no difference really, and in fact, for my personal taste, a couple of the full bodied models I owned sounded muddy and boomy. On the other hand, I owned a full bodied Takamine many years ago that was far too bright for my ears.
I'm more of a one guitar person now, I love the tone of my Lowden 32se and it certainly doesn't lack anything for having a cutaway.
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Post by NikGnashers on Jan 5, 2023 20:13:57 GMT
WD40 might clean your fingerboard, but it won't lubricate it and has plenty of solvent chemicals in it that probably aren't very helpful for the wood. Personally, I wouldn't take it any where near any of my guitars. I use Fret Doctor. It's not cheap but you only need a couple of drops very irregularly. 100% WD40 isn't even a lubricant, it's a water displacement chemical (hence the WD in the name). It was developed originally to stop ice forming on the sides of rockets, and was also rumoured to have been used by NASA to stop ice forming on the early space exploration rockets. Not a chance I'd have it anywhere near my guitars !!!
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Post by NikGnashers on Jan 5, 2023 20:07:34 GMT
What does this "fast fret" actually do for you? Does it clean your strings , frets or fretboard? I can understand that strings corrode and lose their shine after a while, but they'll last for some weeks/months after. I polish up my fretboards when I change strings but only with a barely damp duster with Regency gold polish impregnated. I don't make fretboards gungy, and never felt the need to polish my frets. So, does it extend the look or playability of strings ? Enquiring minds etc. I personally use it to reduce squeak sounds. I don't get it on the fretboard, and use a dedicated fretboard cleaner & oil every 2nd string change (Dr Stringfellow Lem-Oil). If it didn't make much of a difference I wouldn't waste my money, but it does really help me achieve what I want it to do for me, and makes the strings feel very slick, so slides and just general playing sound a lot nicer, without any of that squeak sound, which is something I personally don't like. Each to their own of course, and I'm not suggesting anyone else will get the same benefit, or should spend money on it. Some people like that string noise, and see it as an addition to the sound, and fair play to them. I just wanted to try and find out what is actually in the ingredients of Fast Fret, and thought if I knew what was in it, there is bound to be a cheaper way to get the same results. If it cleans the grot from the strings and makes them last longer and sound fresher, then that is a bonus.
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Post by NikGnashers on Dec 31, 2022 19:17:59 GMT
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Post by NikGnashers on Dec 28, 2022 21:16:00 GMT
I've heard tales of WD40 and Johnson's Baby oil being used as they are both mineral-oil based, although I haven't tried either of them (nor have I tried Fast Fret for that matter). At one time I used to de-grease the strings with a baby wipe every so often, but I've fallen out of that habit over the years, and can't really see any difference in the lifespan I get using nothing except the occasional once-over with a microfibre cloth. Thanks Pete, I use it primarily for reducing string squeak, it really spoils the sound for me. I have other stuff for cleaning the fretboard, and only use it every other string change so I'm not (hopefully) damaging the neck wood. I'm lucky in that I don't really sweat much, and always wash my hands regularly before playing, so my strings actually last a fair time before feeling gunky. I just love the silky feel of freshly FF'd strings, and slides are much more pleasant sounding without that squeaky sound. Nik
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Post by NikGnashers on Dec 28, 2022 21:12:18 GMT
Fast Fret is indeed light mineral oil in the fibre pad. I suppose it is possible to "refresh" the pad with similar oil, though it could be a risk... "Lemon oil" as sold for use with musical instruments (as opposed to lemon oil - an essential oil which should not go near musical instruments) is light mineral oil with fragrance added. It may be cheaper to use this on a Fast Fret pad when the pad is dry? I find mine lasts me several months even if I remember to use it every time before and after playing. Maybe your container isn't as airtight as it should be Nik? I still use an old metal one like they first used, and chuck the plastic ones. I'm a big fan of FF too! Keith Thanks Keith, I still have the metal container, and after posting bought a new tube and was a bit disappointed to see they are now plastic. I guess it saves money. Mine has lasted about 6 months and still has 'some' oil but it's getting fairly dry. I have always wondered if I could save money by buying some type of oil and just topping up the pad. I guess £9.99 isn't too bad for 6 months use, but I'd rather spend less if I can obviously. I'll do some research and see if I can find some recommendations for mineral oil to use instead. Thanks for your shared experience and input matey ! Nik
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